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Still not fixed. Martin,, it does seem to be size related. This morning I loaded my big template with 43 "projects" in my PC Server, all EW Play, and 20 the Mac, all Kontajt and yes, the 1.5 -2 sec lag is still there.
Didn't happen in VE Pro 5, so it isn't solely a Logic Pro thing.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Hello Jay,
I checked with many instances, no troubles here... But we´ll check that again next week.
Best, Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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I see that Martin wrote the following on V.I. Control:
"The delay issue could be reproduced here, using many instances containing plugins with latency. The latency updating mechanism in Logic made it a bit slower than intended. We have just fixed this issue, update will be released very soon."
Great news! "
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Yes indeed, fix will come with the next update 
-- Martin Saleteg Software Developer Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
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Originally Posted by: MS 
Yes indeed, fix will come with the next update 
No hurry, later today will be fine :)
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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OK, I want the update, and I want it NOW! :)
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Check your download area :)
-- Martin Saleteg Software Developer Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
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Aaand... new version VE Pro 6.0.15257 is online.
Best, Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Originally Posted by: MS 
Check your download area :)
Great, you guys are terrific.
EDIT: Sorry, but STILL not fixed.
43 projects in VE Pro 6 PC, each with 1 instance of Play. 24 projects in VE Pro 6 Mac, each with 1 instance of Kontakt all connected in Logic Pro X 10.2.4.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.
Now it may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic Pro.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Seems like this issue is not so easy to isolate afterall. I really hope they find the solution soon.
- Simon Ravn
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Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Originally Posted by: Paul 
Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Hi Paul.
Actually I haven't updated the past two versions. Will get back to you when I try this ASAP today. I am having trouble reading the VSL website currently on my DAW - it looks fine here. NO idea why.
Cheers,
Simon
- Simon Ravn
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Originally Posted by: Ashermusic 
Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.
Now it may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic Pro.
Could you perhaps try to remove third party plugins from your 43 PC instances (annoying, I know) to see if the lag still occurs? Thanks!
Karel Bassez Software Engineer Vienna Symphonic Library
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Originally Posted by: Karel 
Originally Posted by: Ashermusic 
Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.
Now it may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic Pro.
Could you perhaps try to remove third party plugins from your 43 PC instances (annoying, I know) to see if the lag still occurs? Thanks!
So you want me to try it with 43 empty instances?
EDIT: OK so I deleted the Play instances, so now all 43 are empty, and YES the lag is still there connected to my Logic Pro X template, although perhaps slightly shorter.
Further, if I open VE Pro 6 on the PC and leave it empty, then open my Logic template, since it waas saved with instances connected, it creates 43 empty instnaces and the issue is STILL there.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Originally Posted by: Paul 
Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Play 5 beta, soon to be released. But others who report the problem still have Play 4. And as you can see in my previous post, it does it evwen with empty instances.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Originally Posted by: Paul 
Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.
EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.
- Simon Ravn
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Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn 
Originally Posted by: Paul 
Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.
EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.
But Simon, that does not explain why I get the lag with the brand new empty instances that Logic instantiates in VE Pro when I open my Logic template.
It seems to be strictly an project instances numbers game from what I can see.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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Originally Posted by: Ashermusic 
Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn 
Originally Posted by: Paul 
Hi Jay,
Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC? Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?
Thanks, Paul
Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.
EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.
But Simon, that does not explain why I get the lag with the brand new empty instances that Logic instantiates in VE Pro when I open my Logic template.
It seems to be strictly an project instances numbers game from what I can see.
Right. Seems like a multi faceted problem. Let's hope the VSL team gets to the bottom of it sooner rather than later.
- Simon Ravn
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Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro" www.jayasher.comMac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
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