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1.5-2 second lag with Logic Pro X and VE Pro 6
Last post Tue, Oct 25 2016 by yvesrecording, 36 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Aug 20 2016 14:23
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Still not  fixed. Martin,, it does seem to be size related. This morning I loaded my big template with 43 "projects" in my PC Server, all EW Play, and 20 the Mac, all Kontajt and yes, the 1.5 -2 sec lag is still there.

Didn't  happen in VE Pro 5, so it isn't solely a Logic Pro thing.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Sat, Aug 20 2016 18:33
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11895

Hello Jay, 

I checked with many instances, no troubles here... But we´ll check that again next week. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Aug 22 2016 13:26
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

I see that Martin wrote the following on V.I. Control:

"The delay issue could be reproduced here, using many instances containing plugins with latency. The latency updating mechanism in Logic made it a bit slower than intended. We have just fixed this issue, update will be released very soon."

Great  news!





 



"
Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Tue, Aug 23 2016 05:32
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1740

Yes indeed, fix will come with the next update 

--
Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Tue, Aug 23 2016 14:14
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Originally Posted by: MS Go to Quoted Post

Yes indeed, fix will come with the next update 

No hurry, later today will be fine :)

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Wed, Aug 24 2016 17:54
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

OK, I want the update, and I want it NOW! :)

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Wed, Aug 24 2016 20:55
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1740

Check your download area :)

--
Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Aug 24 2016 20:56
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11895

Aaand... new version VE Pro 6.0.15257 is online. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Aug 24 2016 21:04
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Originally Posted by: MS Go to Quoted Post

Check your download area :)

Great, you guys are terrific.

EDIT: Sorry, but STILL not fixed.

43 projects in VE Pro 6 PC, each with 1 instance of Play. 24 projects in VE Pro 6 Mac, each with 1 instance of Kontakt all connected  in Logic Pro X 10.2.4.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 00:26
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the  problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.

Now it  may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic  Pro.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 10:23
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Seems like this issue is not so easy to isolate afterall. I really hope they find the solution soon.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 11:32
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11895

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 12:36
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

 

Hi Paul.

 

Actually I haven't updated the past two versions. Will get back to you when I try this ASAP today. I am having trouble reading the VSL website currently on my DAW - it looks fine here. NO idea why.

 

Cheers,

Simon

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 13:29
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the  problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.

Now it  may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic  Pro.

Could you perhaps try to remove third party plugins from your 43 PC instances (annoying, I know) to see if the lag still occurs? Thanks!

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 13:52
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Originally Posted by: Karel Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the  problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.

Now it  may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic  Pro.

Could you perhaps try to remove third party plugins from your 43 PC instances (annoying, I know) to see if the lag still occurs? Thanks!

So you want me to try it with 43 empty instances?

EDIT: OK so I deleted the Play instances, so now all 43 are empty, and YES the lag is still there connected to my Logic Pro X template, although perhaps slightly shorter.

Further, if I open VE Pro 6 on the PC and leave  it empty, then open my Logic template, since it waas  saved with instances connected, it creates 43 empty  instnaces and  the issue is STILL there.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 13:54
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

Play 5 beta, soon to be released. But others  who report the problem still have Play 4. And as you can see in my previous post, it  does it evwen with empty instances.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 15:01
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.

EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 15:25
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.

EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.

But Simon, that  does not explain why I get the lag with the brand new empty instances that Logic instantiates in VE Pro when I open my Logic template.

It seems to be strictly an project instances numbers  game from what I can see.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 15:34
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Jay, 

Which version of PLAY are you using on your PC?
Simon, what is the status in your environment (versions, lag times, setup)?

Thanks,
Paul

Just updated. Delay still here (2-2,5 seconds), with only local Mac instances connected to Logic. All decoupled.

EDIT: I have one Altiverb instance in one of the VEP instances. Just for the heck of it, I tried removing it, and boom - the delay is (almost at least - still a bit slower than VEP5 I believe) gone. I then added the instance of Altiverb back on the same channel, and the delay still isn't there. So... I don't know what conclusion to draw but the issue seems related to some latency heavy plugins not loading properly when you load an old project into VEP6. Haven't tried saving it and loading it back up to see if it still behaves well yet.

But Simon, that  does not explain why I get the lag with the brand new empty instances that Logic instantiates in VE Pro when I open my Logic template.

It seems to be strictly an project instances numbers  game from what I can see.

 

Right. Seems like a multi faceted problem. Let's hope the VSL team gets to the bottom of it sooner rather than later.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Thu, Aug 25 2016 15:56
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 542

Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Going Pro With Logic Pro 9" & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

3.4 i7 Quad Core iMac, 32 GB RAM.,
OS X 10.15.2
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