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Notion v.s. Sibelius v.s. Finale on MAC
Last post Fri, Oct 21 2016 by Cyril Blanc, 12 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Sep 15 2016 09:50
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2632

Hello

I am about to buy a notation software because I am fedup to wait for Logic's articulation changes

May I have your comment on Notion v.s. Sibelius v.s. Finale on MAC

 

Thanks in advance for your lights

 

Best

 

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Sep 15 2016 16:06
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires. MA USA, Posts 913

They all have their strenghts and weaknesses. They all have demo verstions, so best to try. You should also include Overture in you list.

Finale 25, Sibelius 2018, Notion 6, Overture 5, Cubase 10.0.2
Win10 x64, 32GB RAM; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
Kontakt, Bunch of VSL, VIP, VEP, EWQL Orch, Choir and Pianos
August Forster 190
Posted on Fri, Sep 16 2016 07:10
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Cyril, if you can wait a couple of months, I think you should think about Dorico. Whilst it certainly won't be as fully functiong as Sibelius of Finale, it will be streets ahead of Notion, and also has the advantage that it will be pretty fast on Mac, when compared with Sibelius or Finale. It will also work with Expression Maps.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Fri, Sep 16 2016 17:35
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 445

++ to what DG said.

Posted on Mon, Sep 19 2016 13:09
by Migot
Joined on Sun, Apr 01 2007, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada, Posts 282

+1

Alain

Alain LeBlond
Composer born in 1957

Mac Pro (early 2009) 5.1
2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core, 32 Go
Mac OS 10.9.5

Dorico, Notion5, DP 8, Finale 2012,
-VSL, SE Complete Bundle, SE Synchronized, Ve Pro, Vi Pro, MIRx
Roland A-88 keyboard
Posted on Tue, Sep 27 2016 02:36
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2632

Hi DG

I am waiting

 

Thanks

 

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Mon, Oct 17 2016 08:08
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2632

Dorico will not be ready soon to suport VSL as the audio engine is not developped yet.

Is there is any Notion users around ?

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Tue, Oct 18 2016 08:19
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Cyril, the lack of Expression maps doesn't mean that an audio engine is not developed. However, if you want to buy Notion, you would be able to cross-grade to Dorico and actually get it cheaper than if you'd just bought it outright.


DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Tue, Oct 18 2016 13:38
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2632

Hello DG

 

Let's wait until toonigh after Steinberg show !

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Tue, Oct 18 2016 18:13
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

Hello DG

Let's wait until toonigh after Steinberg show !

Yes, we should know more later on today.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Fri, Oct 21 2016 16:03
by Patrickjbrowne0000
Joined on Sat, Jul 11 2015, Posts 1
Hello,

I an a Notion User (I have it integrated with Studio One 3) and prefer it to both Finale and Sibelius (And Digital Performer & Logic). It does everything I want to to do and I never...I mean never have problems...the price point is very good as well. Dorico has promise but it seems it will take a couple of versions to get it where it needs to be. I am very happy that the Sibelius Developers that Avid let go are back in business. But I have worked with DAWs (Cubase and Pro Tools) and Notation programs for 25 years and like Notion. It does not have all the bells and whistles that Finale and Sibelius (I do not think I will need a Hand Bell scoring template anytime soon but I did like the ability to spread/paste notes over several staves) have but for scoring it is good.

I use two computers joined with Vienna Ensemble Pro and find the Midi Channel/output routing between VEP and Studio One/Notion to be easy and functional.

And just to clarify...I started with Finale back in the late 90's and then moved to Sibelius when it cam out. Although I chose to try Notion after Avid bought Sibelius..and after buying a few Sibelius non-upgrades myself..Notion was my notation program.

I hope Avid never buys them.

Thanks for your time

Patrick
Posted on Fri, Oct 21 2016 16:34
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2632

Hello Patrick

Thanks for your comments

Best

 

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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