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  • Repetitions in Special Edition

    L
    L

    Hi, I've been debating between East/West Hollywood Orchestra and the Special Edition Volume 1 bundle here (very similar pricing), and I'm learning towards the Special Edition because I'm approaching my music with a sound design philosophy, for which EW's stuff isn't as flexible and doesn't give me as wide a range of timbres to work with.

    However, there's one issue I'm stuck on, and it's round robins. I love being able to repeat several notes without machine-gunning, for which I believe at least 4 round robins are necessary for sounding natural. I've heard that all short notes only have two round robins in the SE (which is a huge weakness compared to EW's offering, to me, but somewhat workable when you use dynamic layers to your advantage), but the Volume 1 Plus adds performance repetitions. I saw another thread about this, but it wasn't really clear - does this add more round robins to the spiccato/staccato, or what? I saw that the intervals between repetitions were sampled, but I can't tell if it adds more round robins. I'm a bit confused about what they actually are. Can anyone clarify?

    EDIT:

    Also, I'm concerned about round robins on percussion, since rhythmic elements are very susceptible to machine-gunning. How many are provided there? I use heavy amounts of percussion.
  • J
    J

    Hmm...

    Looking at the sample content of the SE Plus it says it has repitition samples but doesn't specify how many repititions.  Maybe somebody who knows can chime in on that for you.

    However, if you're willing to spend a little more for the VI Pro Vienna sample player you will have a lot more flexibility over the samples you do have with nifty tools like Humanize which allows you to randomize things like tuning, and note delay. Also, there is Time offset which is another manipulation tool to give you more variety with the samples.  Not to mention you can control attack/release in real-time while you are recording which, again gives you more variety. 

     

    Even the standard VI Player that comes free with every Vienna library purchase is far supperior to Eastwest's Play which is kind of clumsy and inflexible IMO. 

    Just some things to consider while you are making your decision.
  • L
    L

    Yeah, the flexibility is why I'm leaning towards VSL, since I'm taking a sound design approach instead of a Hollywood approach to the soundtrack for a project of mine. It's just that more RRs give me a bit of flexibility in writing a piece, since I can write repetitions for a good while. Then again, less RRs might force me to write more dynamic sections in place of that... I don't think it's a deal breaker, but I'd still like to know.