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Bb Trumpet Performance without Vibrato?
Last post Mon, Apr 10 2017 by MassMover, 4 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Apr 10 2017 00:10
by Stephen
Joined on Sun, Jan 23 2005, Posts 21

I recently purchased Bb Trumpet, and discovered something odd with the performance legato matrix ("02 TrBb Performance Legato Speed").  I can't get it to provide a fully non-vibrato performance.

It is a 2x3 matrix.  Two columns wide (speed control: slow and fast) and three rows high (mod wheel controlled),

The left column has a different patch in each row, with the top for Vibrato, middle for Non Vibrato, and bottom for Portamento/Glissando.  But the right colum has the same patch for all three rows: "01 TrBb Performance-fa" (fast).  This patch has vibrato.  So, even if I set the mod wheel for the middle row, as I play, I get a mix of the slow cell with no vibrato, and the fast cell with vibrato.

How can I get the performance matrix to give me a non-vibrato performance across the middle row?

Posted on Mon, Apr 10 2017 07:18
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12890

Hello Stephen, 

The fast legato was only recorded with vibrato. I'd add a ceel Xfade in that cell and crossfade to a non-vibrato patch when needed. 


Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Apr 10 2017 13:18
by Stephen
Joined on Sun, Jan 23 2005, Posts 21

Thanks for the workaround idea.  So, perhaps use "TrBb_sus_noVib" or "TRBb_sus_progr"?

It's a bit disappointing that the Bb Trumpet is lacking the fast, noVib, patch, since so much effort went into offering both vib and non-vib for the slow perf patches.  It would be nice if VSL would periodically upgrade libraries with patches that didn't make the cut the first time.

Posted on Mon, Apr 10 2017 18:31
by MassMover
Joined on Mon, Sep 29 2008, Posts 236

It's even more odd, since - as far as I can notice - most of the perf_leg_fast patches actually do only have the legato transition as individually sampled part, they then x-fade into the sustained part of the regular perf_leg patch, which in some cases is clearly noticeable and quite unpleasant.


In other words: the same could have been done with the leg_fast patches.

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