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Dry Solo + Wet Solo
Last post Wed, Jul 05 2017 by Dietz, 6 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Apr 16 2017 22:43
by Pyre
Joined on Thu, Jun 28 2012, Posts 149

Hi all,

Am I right in thinking that if I export one mix of a MIR project with the Dry Solo button pressed, and another with the Wet Solo button pressed instead, and then load the two audio files into a new project, the end result would sound identical to if I'd exported it with neither button pressed?

If so, that would be a neat way for me to hand both dry and wet to my engineer, so that he could adjust the balance in the mix if necessary.

Thanks!

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Posted on Mon, Apr 17 2017 06:48
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7742

MIR Pro will indeed give you identical results in both scenarios. But keep in mind that there must not be non-linear effects or randomised changes of the audio data routed into MIR: Any active, non-synched effect plug-ins like modulations and delays etc., or "humanising" in an active MIDI instrument has to be avoided (e.g. by freezing or bouncing the input signals to audio files in a first step).

BTW: Being a mixing engineer by profession, I would pefer to work on the actual MIR-project anyway. :-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jul 05 2017 12:15
by Pyre
Joined on Thu, Jun 28 2012, Posts 149

Hi Dietz,

Just to quickly check, is the same true for wet/dry mute when using MIRacle?

So I could export the track once with the wet MIRacle slider muted, and again with the dry one muted, and when I play them back together it will be identical to one track with neither muted?

It's an awkward work around, but seems the best option if a mixing engineer may not have the MIRacle plugin.

Many thanks,

Pyre

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, 3.59 Ghz
64 GB RAM
1 TB hard drive for audio, 4 TB hard drive for libraries, 1x 256 GB SSD for OS
Audient iD14 4-in 2-out USB interface
Korg Triton Extreme-76 master keyboard, M-Audio MidAir-25 lap keyboard.

Windows 10 Pro, Cubase 10.5 Pro
VSL Symphonic Cube (Full library), Vienna Choir (standard library), Vienna Solo Voices (standard library), Vienna Imperial, Konzerthaus Organ, and download instruments Recorders, Harpsichord, Basset Horn and Contrabass Clarinet.
Vienna Instruments Pro 2.5.18635 and Vienna Ensemble Pro 5.4.16181
Vienna Suite, Vienna MIR and room packs 1-5
Sibelius 7 and Komplete 8
All 64-bit.
Posted on Wed, Jul 05 2017 16:11
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7742

Actually, MIRacle will use some modulation in most of it presets, but in a real-world-scenario it shouldn't make any differerence for the goal you're aiming for. So: Yes, this would work.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jul 05 2017 23:18
by Pyre
Joined on Thu, Jun 28 2012, Posts 149

Thanks, that sounds great. The modulation would only affect the wet sound, right?

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, 3.59 Ghz
64 GB RAM
1 TB hard drive for audio, 4 TB hard drive for libraries, 1x 256 GB SSD for OS
Audient iD14 4-in 2-out USB interface
Korg Triton Extreme-76 master keyboard, M-Audio MidAir-25 lap keyboard.

Windows 10 Pro, Cubase 10.5 Pro
VSL Symphonic Cube (Full library), Vienna Choir (standard library), Vienna Solo Voices (standard library), Vienna Imperial, Konzerthaus Organ, and download instruments Recorders, Harpsichord, Basset Horn and Contrabass Clarinet.
Vienna Instruments Pro 2.5.18635 and Vienna Ensemble Pro 5.4.16181
Vienna Suite, Vienna MIR and room packs 1-5
Sibelius 7 and Komplete 8
All 64-bit.
Posted on Wed, Jul 05 2017 23:28
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7742

Yes.

What I was trying to say that it will be different every time you play the arrangement in real-time, because the modulation is not synchronized.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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