Tune down Dimension Patches for weird effects?

[Bennomahenno]

Hi - I use VSL dimension strings but I think this would apply to other libraries as well.

Is it possible to truly tune down the instruments by say an octave or more for unusual effects, I'm looking in particular to tune down the performance legato patches to create long glissando / portamento effects but based on the real performances rather than the pitch bend.

I am not looking to simply transpose the patches down as this won't change the length of the slides.

I have dimension strings / ensemble pro

Any help would be very much appreciated, apologies in advance if I'm on the wrong section of the Forum

Thanks very much

[William]

I tried this and the most I was able to do was a major third down using CC1 for pitch shift, and then the stretch function up all the way to 150% which slows down the portamento addtionally.  So it is slower with those but not an octave. Using a DAW stretch of course would allow any amount of shifting.

[Bennomahenno]

Thanks very much for this - I don't know how you're getting your pitch bend to go down a major third I can only get mine to move a tone - How do you change it? I changed pitch bend to CC1 on VSL pro and drew in the values but it still only moved a tone, in the options tab pitch (bend) range only goes as high as 200

I tried the stretch option on a porta patch - it shifted it a bit but I find it difficult to work out how it knows which gliss interval it is changing - I presume it is all of them as its just a single patch. I did switch it on and render etc though I must admit this function is a little new to me.

 

Anyway don't worry about spending too much time explaining or at all ( though the pitch bend  bit would be handy ) - I had great results from trying anyway!

 

thanks again!

[William]

Yes the pitch shift possible is overall a major third but only measured for both up and down.  I tried to used CC1 to change that but it has the same effect as the wheel, centered in the middle and shifted up or down at the extremes.  But it does slow down the recording some going down, and the effect of the stretch adds to the slowing down.

It is an interesting thing to try though and it would be good to hear the effect of an extreme shift like an octave.  

By the way I often noticed how the sound of pitch-shifted down on a lot of instruments is really good - it slows the vibrato some and makes them a little darker.