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Posted on Mon, Sep 25 2017 12:46
by GilP
Joined on Thu, Aug 31 2017, Posts 89
Hello,

I would like to know the official position about compatibility with macOS High Sierra.

Regards,
Gil.
Posted on Mon, Sep 25 2017 17:08
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13811

Hi Gil, 

We are just preparing a Layer with super-quick installation that will ensure full compatibility with macOS 10.13 High Sierra. 

I hope it will be online by tomorrow. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 28 2017 14:42
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 482

I see that this has been released and it seems to allow the Vienna Suite Pro AUs to work once again.  So what exactly did this do?  What files got installed and where are theyt located?

Posted on Thu, Sep 28 2017 14:51
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13811

Hi Dave, 

This is actually just a temporary fix, it only copies some files that were proviously linked. 
Next update of VS PRO will have a more elegant fix. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 28 2017 14:56
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 482

OK, thanks.  I also found the script and looked at that. 

Posted on Fri, Sep 29 2017 07:14
by ephanassai
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2009, Posts 14

Hey Paul

I downloaded the update yesterday. But Digital Performer 9 still can't load a MAS instnace of VEPRO 6...

Greetings

Urs

Owl and Bear Sound Productions
https://soundcloud.com/urs-bollhalder
www.ursbollhalder.com

2012 MacPro 5,1 3,33 GHz 6-core Intel XEON with 48GB RAM (Master)
2014 Intel-Core-i7-4790 3,60 GHz with 32 GB RAM (Slave)

LOGIC PRO 10.4.1
DIGITAL PERFORMER 9.51
CUBASE 9.5.21.3
Posted on Fri, Sep 29 2017 08:19
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13811

Hi Urs, 

Thanks for the info. Looking into it right now. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Sep 29 2017 16:35
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

Originally Posted by: ephanassai Go to Quoted Post

I downloaded the update yesterday. But Digital Performer 9 still can't load a MAS instnace of VEPRO 6...

Digital Performer is not compatible with macOS 10.13 High Sierra.

http://motu.com/newsitems/motu-and-mac-os-high-sierra

--
Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 13:27
by daerp
Joined on Thu, Jan 18 2007, Toronto, ON CANADA, Posts 173

MOTU says as of Oct 31, that DP 9.5.1 works with High Sierra.

MAC OS X 11.5
Finale 27
Digital Performer 11
VEP7
Many VSL libraries, MIR Pro and Vienna Suite Pro
VIP, Synchron Player, Synchron Pianos, EW Libraries, Broadway Big Band, Realitone Ladies, Superior Drummer, Audio Modeling Saxophones, Kontakt, etc.
Posted on Tue, Nov 07 2017 00:48
by THoffelt
Joined on Tue, May 17 2005, Posts 38

I just installed 9.5.1 and it still cannot load MAS. It doesn't even show up as an option even when enabled in plugins.

All of my project files/templates just show up with 'Effect Errors' for them.

Posted on Tue, Nov 07 2017 19:58
by ephanassai
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2009, Posts 14

You're right.

I got an email from VSL support team telling me that they're focused on the Synchron release right now but they'll work on an update soon afterwards!

Greets Urs

Owl and Bear Sound Productions
https://soundcloud.com/urs-bollhalder
www.ursbollhalder.com

2012 MacPro 5,1 3,33 GHz 6-core Intel XEON with 48GB RAM (Master)
2014 Intel-Core-i7-4790 3,60 GHz with 32 GB RAM (Slave)

LOGIC PRO 10.4.1
DIGITAL PERFORMER 9.51
CUBASE 9.5.21.3
Posted on Thu, Nov 09 2017 16:03
by GP432
Joined on Fri, Jun 28 2013, Posts 1

Same problem, Digital performer 9.51 does not work with vienna pro 6 mas !!! Help!!!!!

Thank you!!!

Posted on Fri, Nov 10 2017 19:47
by crescentmoon52_8709
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2004, USA, Posts 14

Ditto for VEP pro 6 with mas.... Crashes!!!

Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2017 23:32
by gluppy
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2010, Posts 21

I have dealt with this as well. 9.5.1 is supposed to be the fix for the MAS plug in in High Sierra, but it ain't.

I deleted the MAS pref "Audio Unit Info Cache 64-bit" from the User-Library-Preferences-com.motu.MotuAudioSystem folder

And

"MOTU Audio System Prefs" from the User-Library-Preferences-com.motu.DigitalPerformer folder

 

This forced DP to reexamine all the AU units as well as the MAS plugins, and the VePro MAS worked.

 

But then I closed and reopened the file and it reported the plugin missing. It still showed the plugin in the add instrument menu, but then reported a MAS error when opening.

 

SO

 

It ain't fixed.

Posted on Thu, Nov 16 2017 12:15
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 1013

Dear all,

With the new High Sierra Compatibility Layer, which registered users can download from MyVSL, all current builds of VSL applications will install and run on High Sierra.

There still is the unresolved issue with the MAS version of the Vienna Ensemble Pro plug-in on macOS 10.13 though, which our development team will address as soon as possible in cooperation with MOTU.

This is why we have to NOT recommend Digital Performer users to upgrade to High Sierra yet if they rely on Vienna Ensemble Pro for their work.

Also, Pro Tools and Cubase/Nuendo users should wait until Avid and Steinberg officially announced High Sierra compatibility and support.

My apologies for not having better news at the moment - thanks for your patience!

Best, Marnix

Posted on Fri, Nov 17 2017 09:05
by SSStudios
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2015, Posts 1

Looking forward to the update to fix MAS issues. 

In addiditon to this, VEPro 6 can't see Kontakt, including many other NI plugins.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Shane

Posted on Fri, Nov 17 2017 16:43
by lestaal_21447
Joined on Wed, May 24 2006, VLG, Posts 4

Hello There, it does not work ... I was in the middle of a Movie composing for TV ...
I am full in trouble ///
Is it possible to go back to Sierra from high sierra ? 
any idea ?
François

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Posted on Wed, Nov 22 2017 23:58
by Chris T
Joined on Fri, Mar 23 2012, Posts 40

I too am wondering about VEP 6 and DP 9.5.1 compatibility under OS 10.13.1.

VSL is working fine with DP on my current rig (OS 10.10.5), but I'd like to upgrade my mac to 10.13.1. From this thread though it appears as though I should wait, correct?

I was told that, in DP, since we're able to run VSTs AND MAS plugins, that VST versions are more stable with 3rd party software. Is this correct? If so, and since the MAS plugin is the culprit re VSL in High Sierra, is the VST plugin working ok in DP9.5.1?

Is this not a 'safer' alternative to using the MAS plugin version? What are the disadvantages of using VEPro 6 VST plugin compared to the MAS plugin?

Thanks

Posted on Tue, Dec 05 2017 05:17
by pianoguy
Joined on Thu, Feb 28 2008, Colorado Springs, Colorado, Posts 59

Just wondering if there's any progress on this issue. Apple keeps suggesting I upgrade to High Sierra, but I'm in the middle of a large DP/Vienna Ensemble Pro project ...

Thanks!

2021 Macbook Pro M1 Max, 64GB RAM, OS 12.2 / 2013 Mac Pro, 3.5 GHz 6-Core, 64GB RAM, OS 11
/ DP / Logic X / Dorico / Camelot
Posted on Tue, Dec 05 2017 18:18
by LEEVUE
Joined on Tue, Mar 08 2016, Posts 1

DO NOT UPGRADE to MacOS High Sierra.  I emailed MOTU since Vienna hasn't mentioned anything and this was their reply: 

I'm sure MOTU has already received a lot of request for help on Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 MAS not working in DP 9.51 for MacOS High Sierra and there hasn't been any word from Vienna either about resolving this issue that has been going on for a month now. My question is what time frame can we expect for there to be a new update to fix this issue?

Added by Travis on 2017/11/30 16:59:47 Universal HI Lee, 

Thanks for writing. We appreciate your patience with this. At this time, VSL and MOTU are working together to get this issue resolved. I'm not sure when an update will be available, but I expect it to be before too long. 

I'll be happy to send you any information I have as it becomes available. 
Best regards, 

Travis Hagan
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