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Dimension String: Using Stretch on Portamento
Last post Thu, Oct 12 2017 by Grodhisatva, 12 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Oct 09 2017 22:40
by Grodhisatva
Joined on Wed, Oct 09 2013, Posts 20

Well here goes another post that will likely go unanswered.... 

 

I'm trying to use the stretch function to make the portamentos take longer, so it sounds like a nice good and long slide. It's not working. 

 

Advice? Paul? 

Posted on Tue, Oct 10 2017 07:14
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 9334

Hi Grodhisatva, 

Great opening! 

My suggestion is to only stretch the transistion time of the portamentos (I'd say the first 20 ms), so that the target note (played with vibrato) is not affected. 

Make sure to switch the Stretch Mode ON, and use Algorithm 1 for the strings. If you change your settings, click "Render" to render a new patch. 

Let me know which step helped. 

Best,
Paul

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Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Oct 10 2017 11:57
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 204
Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Great opening!


:D
thanks
Posted on Tue, Oct 10 2017 15:57
by Grodhisatva
Joined on Wed, Oct 09 2013, Posts 20

Hey Paul!

Yes I had to try to get someone's attention ;) 

 

I'm still not getting a result, i have it on algorithm 1 and my stretch time is modeled like your envelope and stretched to almost 3 seconds! (SCREEN SHOT LINK)

I have used this function to stretch other patches like the crescendo timing on brass "dyn" to great success, I don't know why this isn't working!

Posted on Tue, Oct 10 2017 17:00
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 9334

Hi, 

Do you see that a new patch is rendered for the selected slot(s) when you apply the Stretching?

EDIT: Very important: Is the CELL containing those slots enabled (dark blue instead of light blue)? Otherwise the RENDER button won't even be activated....

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Oct 11 2017 04:12
by Grodhisatva
Joined on Wed, Oct 09 2013, Posts 20

Hey Paul

Yes the cell is enabled haha, but yes always safe to check.

"Do you see that a new patch is rendered for the selected slot(s) when you apply the Stretching?"

Not sure I understand-- are you saying that the patch name should change otherwise the stretch was not rendered successfully? I've never noticed this when stretching other patches

Posted on Wed, Oct 11 2017 07:21
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 9334

Hi, 

This is how stretching works with VI PRO:

1) You decide which parts of the sample you want to strectch, with a certain mode.
2)The stretching is applied to the selected slot above.
3) As soon as you click "RENDER", a new patch with the stretching information is rendered, in the "Time Stretch Cache Folder" assigned in your Directory Manager. This takes a little time with the thousands of samples contained in a performance legato patch, and you can see the progress bar below the VI PRO logo working for at least half a minute. 

Do you want to send me a short screenvideo of your steps?

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Oct 11 2017 11:51
by FabioA
Joined on Fri, Jan 13 2012, Posts 32

Hi Paul,

I take the chance to ask: any chance for a feature to stretch every slot of a certain patch with a single click? I know that feature would be helpful for  the Dimension Series only, and that sometimes to make different curves for every slot could be very interesting; but still, I would need that badly quite often, to save some time :)

Posted on Wed, Oct 11 2017 11:56
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 9334

Hello Fabio,

You can save those new presets you created, this way you always have them accessible without additional calculations (the patches have been rendered before). 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Oct 11 2017 23:48
by Grodhisatva
Joined on Wed, Oct 09 2013, Posts 20

Hi Paul,

I've succesfully used this feature before I believe I am familiar with how it works, though I would gladly welcome a video. 

 

If you can specifically send me a video of you or someone else stretching the portamento patch for Violins in Dimensions Strings so that it is a very long slow slide, I would greatly appreciate that. 

 

How should I title my email so that we can maintain this conversation chain, as I'm sure you get hundreds of email per day? 

Posted on Thu, Oct 12 2017 12:31
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 9334

Hi, 

You can always contact with specific questions, you can also include a link to a video that shows where you are stuck. 

What would you like to see in the video / What Is not clear in the stretching process?

Sorry for any delays in advance, Vienna is buzzing with the Synchron Strings I Preparation.

Best, 
Paul 

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Oct 12 2017 17:44
by Grodhisatva
Joined on Wed, Oct 09 2013, Posts 20

Paul--

I sent an email with your name in the Subject.

That's great that you guys are excited for this new product release-- I've already purchased thousands worth from VSL because I know you make good products and have good customer service, so I have no doubt you or someone from your team will assist me, a loyal paying customer, quickly. 

As I said in the email, and as I said elsewhere here: 

I'm trying to stretch the portamento time between notes, so that the slide is nice and long.

If you can demonstrate that in a video, I would appreciate it. 

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