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  • Peppercorn Concerto for Violin in E Minor

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    Here is the first movement of a new project. ... Violin Concerto in E Minor

    1. Allegro appassionata

    Thank you.

    (Special Editions 1 and 2)

    ADDED 12-04-2017...

    3. Allegretto-Allegro furioso
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    Hi Wayne

    I had thought that you were a master of classical form of the Haydn era. Just then you totally surprised me with this piece...this sounds like it couldve been written by Paganini or Mendellssohn. (I can never spell his name right!)

    Hope that says it all. This is a beautiful and fun piece. I like how a waltz pops out while in the beginning its not obvious that this is 3/4 meter (or some derivative it that?). Masterfully done! I cant wait to see you move towards more romantic styles of late 19th century. Hope you get this payed by leading orchestras.

    I cant imagine how much work went into rendering this.  I would say that at times the articulations could be improved, but I'll let the experts weigh in. Anyways congratulations and looking forward to the next movements!

    Anand
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    Thank you Anand. Your first comment surprised me a bit until I went back and listened again with your thought in mind. I really did not intend to progress from what I love so much i.e. classical. Maybe after a while, a composer simply makes a natural progression... but I was not "targeting" the romantic period... it just comes across that way I guess. I wanted to give the violin a "good workout" and deep down I guess I believe it wasn't until Beethoven and beyond that the violin concerto really featured the soloist and the instrument's capabilities.

    You are correct in that the meter is 3/4. There is enough rubato in the opening violin statement to throw you off a bit but it's all in 3/4. It's also Sonata form with an introduction added.

    I'm working on the second movement 4/4 and G major key. The third will be presto and return to E minor. Thanks again for listening and commenting... it's sincerely appreciated.
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    Wayne that sounds excellent !  Good luck on the other movements -  I feel like the last one should be a technical challenge for the violinist.  Very dramatic.  I think you should go full throttle Paganini.  
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    Thank you William. I think you are spot on about the last movement... full throtle Pag for sure would be awesome if I can pull that off (not sure that I have enough romantic period in me to pull that off)..
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    Hi Wayne,

    What can be better than a lazy Sunday afternoon with a brand new violin concerto offered for free...? Wayne, this is definitely another step in your composition history. Maybe, without being aware of it, you moved on towards the vituoso concerto. Of course that doesn't go without risk: writing for such a delicate instrument and demanding great skill and technique require a lot of experience and knowledge of the violin. As far as I can judge upon that, you've written a challenging concerto movement that us quite well playable. But I'm not a specialist and only an experienced violin player can give an expert opinion. However I don't think there is any passage that wouldn't be playable. Moreover, everything sounds very neat and exteremly well built (as always in your works). The construction stands firmly, but is never disturbing the listening pleasure. The swift alternation between minor and major makes it a highly agreeable piece with a sweet supporting orchestral accompaniment. You're really a master at this.
    I can't wait to hear the rest!

    Jos
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    Fabulous! I think your compostion skill is improving. This piece is clearly more emotional and affective than any of your previous things I have heard. You do not depart from the traditional forms and harmonies, yet this work seems more refined and polished. I'm looking forward to hearing the rest.
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    Here is the final movement to the violin concerto:

    3. Allegretto-Allegro furioso

    I still have a lot of work to do on the slow 2nd movement so I jumped to the final movement and finished it.

    Thanks.

    VSL Special Eds 1 and 2

    Also thanks Max and Paul for your comments on the first movement... I appreciate them!
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    Wayne,

    when I saw your post I got excited and clicked on the link right away, and am listening to it now. This is indicative of how much I was looking forward to the other movements,...

    The composition is outstanding as usual. I have to listen to it more to make more detailed comments but on first hearing it is so well balanced and mature tonally, orchestrally and formally. 

    I however think that the rendering of this movement is not as good as the other one. I keep earning for a good orchestra to perform this work. Could you get someone to program this for you? I think it could be improved.  Again to be clear this is just the rendering, the piece is outstanding.

    (Oh man ... at the end of this peice YT started auto playing your Eb string quartet ....


    so beautiful!! I seriously cant tell this from Haydn or even someone from the romantic era like Schubert. Its a pity if top tier string quartets like Emerson wont play this)

    Thank you for sharing your beautiful music!

    Anand
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    Hi Anand. Thanks for your input. What I find extremely valuble is your comment concerning the rendering. I have to say, going into the publication of this movement, I felt that it was one of my best renderings. Understand that I take absolutely no offense to your critique...in fact it's appreciated that you speak your mind so honestly.... it's put there to help, not to hurt. So it's amazing that we as composers/renderers of music can be so close to a piece that we miss what others can hear or observe. I really don't want to change a thing in this movement....yet....I need to go back with the same critical ear that you/others have and try for improvement.

    One of the primary things I love about this forum is the critique that continually challenges us to create the best music and renderings that we can. Thank you for giving the piece a listen... and for your input.
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    Hi Wayne,

    With extreme pleasure I listened to your 3d movement. Here you display a more than usual knowledge of the instrument. It's indeed very risky to write such a technical piece if you're not aware of all the possibilities/difficulties and impossibilities of the violin. It demands a high degree of study, unless you're yourself a more than mediocre player. I don't know, but what you've created here is very decent and well sounding. I don't have problems with the rendering: it is transparent, balanced and gives a clear sonic image of both the orchestra and the solo player.

    Well done! Congrats,

    Jos
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    @WPeppercorn said:

     I really don't want to change a thing in this movement....yet....I need to go back with the same critical ear that you/others have and try for improvement.

    Absolutely, please dont change anything in the composition. Its perfect as it is, and something far more sophisticated than what I can write.

    When I listened to it again I felt that I was probably too nit picky...the rendering is not bad at all, but I am sure it could be improved to match the quality of the composition.

    For example: the four opening B notes played by the violin are I believe a detache phrase? followed by the melody F* G E D* which would sound nice with legato. Currently the attack-release of the opening violin notes sound a bit unnatural. And more dynamics could be added.

    If I have time tonight I'll try rendering the opening violin notes and send you. I am no expert but just wanted to try for fun.

    Best

    Anand
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    Hi Wayne

    Just tried sequencing your main violin melody with SoloStrings and Sibelius.

    Audio: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwwxcbqqzdwo07m/PeppercornTheme.wav?dl=0

    Score:https://www.dropbox.com/s/mcjmu02o91dkhoe/PeppercornTheme.pdf?dl=0

    It probably doesnt sound that different but you may notice the use of detache and legato alternately. You are probably doing that already. I realized you are using Special Editions so it may not sound the same, but maybe this helps somewhat. Once again I am no VSL expert.

    Anywas,  it was fun doing this and hope you didnt mind...

    Best

    Anand
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    Wayne the 3rd movement and entire concerto are wonderful.  Congratulations! 
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    Here is the final movement that completes the concerto:

    2. Adagio cantabile

    Thanks for all the prior comments, support and input on this piece. This was a stretch for me as a composer. I think I researched enough to believe that all movements are "playable".. .I'm not real sure about the tempo in the last movement as it relates to the theme changing from arco to pizz and back again so quickly (especially since double stops are involved). I need to run that by a couple of my wife's friends who are violinists in one our local symphonies.. .just haven't had the opportunity yet.

    Merry Christmas/Happy Haunkkah/Happy Holidays and Happy New Years to all!
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    Hi Wayne,

    What a marvelous composition. My favorite movement is the third, but all of it is excellent. I do not write in the classical style, I prefer the late-romantic, but I can only hope to create in that style as effectively as you create in  the classical style. Your music is actually quite remarkable. Congratulations!

    Paul
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    Hi Wayne,

    I can't but agree with Paul. This is so good and delightful, so delicate and expressive. Everyone knows how hard it is to draw beautiful lines with long string patches. What you've achieved here is truly masterful!

    My deepest respect for your musical genious, your knowledge of the instruments/samples and the skill to write in classical style with such an ease.

    Cobgratulations, Wayne!

    Jos
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