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FIRST DEMOS of Synchron Strings I available
Last post Thu, Dec 14 2017 by garylionelli, 33 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 20:16
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11387

Hello everybody!

Finally, the very first demos for Synchron Strings I are ready!

Here’s what Guy Bacos said about his first contact with the Synchron Strings, resulting in his piece “The Hatchling”: 

“What strikes me is the clarity and richness of the timbre as well as the natural reverb. I really appreciate the natural acoustics thanks to the multiple mic positions in various formats. The room ambience is amazing, with a beautiful smooth decay across the spectrum. This clarity allows Synchron Strings to easily blend with other instruments without the dreaded muddiness that is so often heard from sampled strings recorded in a live acoustic setting. Clearly a brilliant move by VSL!”

And Christof Unterberger created beautiful music to “Enter the Dream”: 

“It was great fun to be part of the sampling sessions for Synchron Strings I as a cello player, and now it is an incredible feeling to work with these samples! I was blown away by the ambience and the sound we created at Synchron Stage. It’s fair to say that this hall is an instrument itself.
It’s really cool to have this incredible scoring stage available on my computer with Synchron Strings I, and it’s a pleasure to experience how well every instrument group is placed. Thinking about panning and impulse responses becomes pretty negligible… This short demo should illustrate the transition phase between falling asleep and the upcoming dream. Enjoy!”

With best wishes from your hard-working team in Vienna!

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 20:29
by HSM1
Joined on Thu, Oct 25 2012, Frankfurt, Germany, Posts 33

 


Well done, very impressive! 

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Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 20:56
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 483

 

Thank you for the great demos. They show that this Library sounds absolutely incredible!

2 questions ...

Could you please give us a short info about the mic-positions you used for the demos?

Which Player did you use? Already the Synchron-Player?

—Lurker-mode—
Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 21:24
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11387

Hi, 

I'm sure that Guy and Christof can add much more information here, but in general, they both had access to all microphone positions, and they were performing with the classic Vienna Instruments. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 21:44
by christof
Joined on Tue, Jun 19 2007, Vienna/Austria, Posts 195

Exactly, as Paul mentioned, we didn't have access to the powerful Synchron player yet, so we had to improvise a little bit with multiple VI Pro instances per section.I guess this won't be the case once the library will be released.

In general I must say that this whole thing might be a game changer.

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

I'm sure that Guy and Christof can add much more information here, but in general, they both had access to all microphone positions, and they were performing with the classic Vienna Instruments. 

Best, 
Paul

Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 22:12
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 483

Hello Christof,

well nobody has questions ... so I ask a last one :)

Am I right that the "Legato - Slurred" was not performed?

Thanks & Greetings

Lars

—Lurker-mode—
Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 22:24
by SJSF
Joined on Sat, Sep 18 2010, Utah, Posts 497

Guy,

I hate to sound this picky...

But would it be possible to hear a version of The Hatchling without percussion? I know we'll get more demos, but it highlights the staccatos all over the place, just with a lot of percussion mixed in. That isn't a complaint about the writing. I just think an alternate version would be really useful to hear is all.

Either way, thanks for making everyone salivate enough as it is. 

-Sean

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Posted on Wed, Dec 06 2017 23:49
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1978

Originally Posted by: SJSF Go to Quoted Post

Guy,

I hate to sound this picky...

But would it be possible to hear a version of The Hatchling without percussion? I know we'll get more demos, but it highlights the staccatos all over the place, just with a lot of percussion mixed in. That isn't a complaint about the writing. I just think an alternate version would be really useful to hear is all.

Either way, thanks for making everyone salivate enough as it is. 

-Sean

The Hatchling (with no percussion)

Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 04:04
by SJSF
Joined on Sat, Sep 18 2010, Utah, Posts 497

Originally Posted by: Guy Bacos Go to Quoted Post

Thanks a ton! It's great to get a "closer" listen to the strings.

My initial thoughts after hearing both demos:

Oh.. oh my. This isn't like before. It's not like when you hear a sample library and go "that's impressive". Synchron's best qualities literally make me weak at the knees. I'm saying to myself "this... this is what we've been waiting for all these years."

I could marry the Pizzicatos accross the range. The tone and color of the library overall is stellar. But everything pales in comparison to the absolutely gorgeous low end and dynamic expressiveness of the whole library, especially the variety of staccato attacks going on. It's magical.

At first the higher notes caught me off guard. The upper violin staccatos in The Hatchling reveal the room slapping back at you. I'm just not used to it with VSL's traditionally dry stage. But as I think about the various recordings and spaces I've played in myself, I realize it's the character of the space. I'd EQ it a bit differently, but that's just personal taste.

Some of legato transitions sound brilliant. Some are harder to tell, but I realize I don't have a clue which articulations were used where. Heck, we all use samples differently. Only time will tell as we get more demos and see video walk-throughs.

Overall, I think layering Synchron with Chamber Strings is basically just a must. It just must happen. I'm still weak at the knees here. I've never heard samples by so expressive. It's velvety chocolate goodness from quiet to loud then it gets gritty and bold but still very warm. It melts in your mouth. I'm dying here. Breathe Sean Breathe...

If Synchron Brass is modular/divisi, I'm going to need to get a better 3rd slave machine. I may as well start planning for that now. Dang it... Dang it dang it!

I'm in love.

-Sean

P.S. With Synchron, every other string library out there is probably a waste of hard drive space... and money. I'm seriously impressed.

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Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 04:50
by antcarrier
Joined on Fri, Sep 24 2010, Sunshine Coast, Australia, Posts 60
Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 06:56
by stephen limbaugh
Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts 212

holy f**k!!

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Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 10:16
by enyawg
Joined on Tue, Jun 21 2016, Posts 3

Superb, this is truly worth the wait and plus a new Synchron player... thank you Lord (Paul!). lol

Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 18:50
by garylionelli
Joined on Wed, Jul 09 2003, Los Angeles, Posts 376

Great sound! Question on one of the pieces. In Christof's demo, it sounds as if he is not using legato. Slight detaché articulations instead? I hear separation between notes in most of the piece. Thanks.

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Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 19:20
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1720

So these demos are without EQs, Comressors, Limiters, MIRs, Reverbs, just pur, pur, pur?

If not then please do it once more without any effect please so that we only can hear the library...

Thanks!

All the best

Beat

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Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 20:02
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1978

Hi Beat,

I can't speak for Christoph but my demo has some stage recording MIRacle. No EQ at all.

I think most demos are presented with some reverb to help unify it and it's also important to show how it would sound in a more finished mix to not give a wrong impression.  

However, in the folowing days I'll be posting some simple melodies, with and without rev.

Guy

Posted on Thu, Dec 07 2017 20:28
by matthieu.lechowski
Joined on Thu, Nov 13 2008, Posts 42

Many thanks for your help, Guy ! We would really appreciate simple melodies too.

Posted on Fri, Dec 08 2017 06:02
by RLD
Joined on Thu, Jan 26 2017, Posts 68

Originally Posted by: Guy Bacos Go to Quoted Post
 

However, in the folowing days I'll be posting some simple melodies, with and without rev.

Guy

 

Thanks Guy for your work.

It will be also very interesting to have a version of the piece played with VEP and String, another with VEP and Dimension String

Posted on Fri, Dec 08 2017 11:08
by FabioA
Joined on Fri, Jan 13 2012, Posts 90

Originally Posted by: RLD Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Guy Bacos Go to Quoted Post
 

However, in the folowing days I'll be posting some simple melodies, with and without rev.

Guy

 

Thanks Guy for your work.

It will be also very interesting to have a version of the piece played with VEP and String, another with VEP and Dimension String

 

That's really to much work to ask to Guy! :S

Posted on Fri, Dec 08 2017 18:15
by esperlad
Joined on Thu, Nov 07 2002, Posts 230

I would suggest The Nutcracker.

Posted on Fri, Dec 08 2017 18:59
by Dominique
Joined on Fri, Aug 08 2008, Posts 176

The whole Nutcracker? No problem, that demo would be ready by approximately 2021.

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