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Last post Sun, Mar 25 2018 by fatis12_24918, 14 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 02:00
by Michael C.
Joined on Thu, Jun 26 2003, Minneapolis, MN, USA, Posts 477
I’m a long time VSL user and I have used Cakewalk Sonar as my DAW for a very long time. Gibson, the owner of Cakewalk, just announced they are stopping production of all Cakewalk software. I need a new DAW and would like to hear what other people are using that works well for serious music production using VSL libraries!

Thanks,
Mike
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Windows 10 Pro.
Cubase Pro 9.5
Intel core i7-8700 8th Gen Coffee Lake 6-core w/HT 3.7 GHz.
5 Samsung SSD drives, (1 TB, 4-2TB).
64GB DDR4 3200 RAM.
ARC 1883LP 12GB/s SAS 4+4 RAID controller.
16USB ports.
Intel Thunderbolt 3.0 ports.
Presonus Quantum audio interface.
Hornberger HB1 breath controller.
Billions of Vienna Instrument samples!
Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 03:38
by Richard Bowling
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Needville, TX, Posts 44
Several really good optioned- try the free trials/demos and see what you like. My guess is you would transition smoothly to Cubase.
Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 07:20
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 538
Cubase is the choice of many VSL-users.

Shiba Inu & Doge ... to the 🌙🚀🚀

Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 07:58
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 255

Hi Mike

Only a question of personal taste so therefore I'd also suggest to try around what suits you best.

VST Expression however is the thing that makes Cubase my Number 1

Studio One, Notion
Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 09:01
by JimmyHellfire
Joined on Tue, Dec 24 2013, Posts 335

There's no easy answer to this, and I think there's probably no way around an extensive research.

I myself would never like to work in any other software than Cubase, when it comes to virtual instruments and sample libraries. The main reasons are:

  • expression maps - I'm a "one track per instrument/section" guy and therefor, these are almost indispensable when using libraries with many patches and articulations, like VSL.
  • disable tracks - a fantastic and super-intuitive way of saving machine ressources and employing large project templates on a single machine, without slave PCs, etc.
  • probably the best MIDI editor

By the way - Cubase has a quite attractive crossgrade offer.
https://www.steinberg.net/en/landing_pages/cubase_9/competitive_crossgrade.html

Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 11:49
by FabioA
Joined on Fri, Jan 13 2012, Posts 89

I would definitely go with Cubase, mainly for the reasons other users already explained. Other than Cubase, if you mainly work as composer for media, I would take a look to the unique features of Digital Performer.

Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 17:01
by daniellumertz
Joined on Wed, Apr 19 2017, Posts 12

I really really like Reaper! Its Ultra Flexible and the users can create tools if the software dont come with what you need! The Forum of Reaper is very communicative too and the support are always making new versions, and you can have the trial for ever! ( the reaper it's not a free software, so if you earn some money with it you have to buy, but they dont force you they just belive in your ethic, and I find that beautiful! hahahah )
Try Reaper ! 

Posted on Sun, Dec 17 2017 23:22
by MMKA
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Posts 465

I work with Samplitude Pro X3. I like very much the sound of Samplitude, and for editing wave files I like it very much. And I can work well with the midi in it also. But the midi seems to be a bit different from other DAWs and I don't know that other DAWs. I have to say, that I'm a content user of it.

Posted on Mon, Dec 18 2017 01:38
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582

Jimmie there's really no hurry to jump ship just yet.

I have Sonar Platinum and we'll have about two to four years before the OS evolution will render the software "unstable" with constant Windows updates.  Bare in mind that most of those updates are Internet patches anyway and unless you're upgrading to Windows 11 or 12 or 20 Gazillion Pie R Squared the software should still work regardless.  Also, there's always ways to make older software run on modern systems as that is becoming a must for OS developers.

Or, if you're like me and you keep your machine offline,  it will last for as long as your machine will last with current software.  Gibson said that they are still maintaining the Cakewalk servers so if you do get another machine you can still download the last version of Sonar you had.  They are just not creating any new products. 

The question is....  will Gibson at least keep the software up to date with OS evolution?

And there's always the chance that somebody could buy Cakewalk and keep it all going.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Mon, Dec 18 2017 16:05
by ViRiX Dreamcore
Joined on Thu, Nov 23 2017, Posts 9

Jasen has a good point. Even though they are stopping development, that doesn't mean you have to stop using it right away. Did you update it every month when they were doing those? If not, then this won't really effect you for at least two years unless the VSTs you use or the OS you use change drastically. 

 

As for which other DAW to pick, I myself prefer FL Studio for making all genres of music. But I have also been using it for 12+ years, so I have kind of a bias. If FL Studio ceased to exist though, I would probably use Cubase and that crossgrade offer is looking quite nice. So if you have to switch, I'd go there as it's the closest thing to SONAR and it plays VERY NICELY with VSTs. (In FL, you have to manually asign most of the CCs).

I do music and sound for games.
www.virixcore.net
Posted on Wed, Jan 03 2018 18:15
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 538
Originally Posted by: LAJ Go to Quoted Post
Cubase is the choice of many VSL-users.


I upgraded to Cubase 9.5 and Wavelab.9.5 and I saw that Steinberg now (since 02.01.) offer an official crossgrade for Sonar users for 269 EURO.
Very cool.

Here comes the Link....

https://www.steinberg.ne...r-sonar-owners-4579.html

Shiba Inu & Doge ... to the 🌙🚀🚀

Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2018 09:58
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582

Originally Posted by: jasensmith Go to Quoted Post

there's really no hurry to jump ship just yet.

Well, well, well,  looky here:

https://www.musicradar.com/news/bandlab-rescues-cakewalk-from-gibson

It looks like Sonar and all of Cakewalk is being resurected?


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2018 15:34
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5679

That's similar to what happened with Sony Vegas video - it was picked up by Magix and is now better!    

Posted on Sun, Mar 25 2018 21:51
by fatis12_24918
Joined on Sat, Dec 16 2006, Posts 326

Well... the guy had Cubase Pro 9.5 in the signature LOL

So what?

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