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  • Woodwinds Getting Updated Anytime Soon!?

    It's kind of frustrating when you look around at all the great libraries coming out these days with a broader range of articulations for woodwinds than VSL (for quite  fortune less i might add...)

    I guess Vienna is focused on the new Synchron series/sampling so are we getting Synchron winds at some point? hopefully with more extended techniques.. 


  • What is it that you feel is missing?


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  • extended tech on more than just clarinet 2 would be great

    better legato for quick passages, still sounds very midi


  • ?? Clarinet 2 has very limited techniques compare to Clarinet 1...

    Are you refrering perhaps to the Special Edition woodwinds?


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  • extended technique referes to unorthodox playing and sounds such as key clicks an multiphonics, with the exception of bend gliss, clarinet 1 has none of these 

    obviously, one is required to have both clarinet 1 and 2 to access the full range of the instrument. 

    the point of the post is that there are many great libraries coming out that have all these articulations in one pack and for a greater range of instruments than VSL, specifically winds. i want to know if there's going to be another update like synchron strings for winds which will include more extended tech before i put any more money into the existant wind libraries, or if none is coming so i can put my money where it is needed. 


  • I agree that extensions to the existing libraries in the direction of "extended techniques" would be very welcome. Browsing through the "Special Effects" sections of Stiller's "Handbook of Instrumentation" would provide a fairly full list of such techniques. For example, for Flute, he lists: 

    harmonics

    whistle tones

    key slap

    pop attack (I think this last one is included in VSL's full Flute 1)

    However, the current trend with Synchron seems to be a more limited selection of articulations, but with wider, smoother dynamic range and of course the baked-in reverb. That in itself is mostly welcome but it would be nice if a broader range of articuations were also included.

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    On this topic I think it would be good to add, for the brass, a wider selection of mutes would be really useful. CUp mute as well as striaght mute. And for the horns, more extensive stopped articualtions, as well as muted ones. 


  • agreed. i think a lot of us are coming at this as in the box people who are being asked to do as much as possible without live players, some of these limitations are handicapping and it makes other libraries very tempting.