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  • [SOLVED] Vienna Ensemble (Not PRO) Not Showing Interface of Newer Vienna Instruments SE Vol. 1

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    Hi, Everyone!

    First things first. I am still on an older system. 😳 My Vienna Instruments Special Edition Vol 1 is Version 5.3.11515, running on Pro Tools 10.0 on an iMac Lion 10.7.3. My Vienna Ensemble (NOT the PRO version) is Version 4.1.10738.

    Unfortunately, I can't as of yet upgrade, but I think I may be missing a simple solution to my issue. 😊 

    Here's the thing: I had never tried using VE since I got the updated Vienna Instruments Special Edition Vol 1 in 2012 (when I last updated my gear) and have only discovered recently how much (an understatement!) I've been missing out without VE.  😳 And so, I tried it and successfully got it to work (given that I'm not the techie kind). I run on the 32-bit service. 

    My issue, however, is that when I open Vienna Ensemble (NOT the PRO version), Version 4.1.10738 and add a VI track, the interface that appears is still that of the older Vienna Instruments Special Edition Vol 1 version (circa 2009, no reverb slider and still with the circular menu in the center of the interface). I am just wondering, because, since 2012, whenever I would instantiate VI as a separate track instrument  (NOT via VE), the interface that appears is that of that newer version. I tried running on the 64-bit service, but the older VI still shows up, not the relatively newer one.

    My question is this: How could I get the relatively newer VI interface to appear on my VE without having to download the newer version? I am just guessing that even in 2012, the then-newer VI interface should have already shown up in my VE or am I mistaken? 😊

    I hope that someone could help enlighten me regarding this as I'm sure I'm missing something that should be obvious. 😳

     

    Thanks for any help!

    Gino
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    Hi Gino,

    In Vienna Ensemble 4.1.10738, the (old) Vienna Instruments Player was still hardcoded into the VE application IIRC, so there is no way to get the new VI GUI into this version.

    I´d recommend you install the latest VI/VE build, which will install on your system - Vienna Instruments & Vienna Ensemble Software 5.4 (OS X 10.6.8) build 16488 from our Software Archive.

    Best, Marnix
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    @marnix said:

    Hi Gino,

    In Vienna Ensemble 4.1.10738, the (old) Vienna Instruments Player was still hardcoded into the VE application IIRC, so there is no way to get the new VI GUI into this version.

    I´d recommend you install the latest VI/VE build, which will install on your system - Vienna Instruments & Vienna Ensemble Software 5.4 (OS X 10.6.8) build 16488 from our Software Archive. 

    Best, Marnix

     

    Hi, Marnix!

    Thank you so much for your reply! I am so sorry for this late acknowledgement as I just realized that I had not turned on the email notification on posts and so I thought no one had ever replied to my post from last January until I decided to check directly here in the Community site. 😳

    Since you mentioned that this 16488 build will install and work on my current (old) system, I am assuming that any current PT sessions I have with VE instantiated in them would just open and function normally but with the new VI interface? 😝 In any case, I am currently downloading the version you had linked me to (thank you for ths!) and shall come back should I experience antyhing out of the oridnary. 😇 

    Much appreciation once again for your expertise and help! 😊

    Thanks! - GIno
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    @marnix said:

    Hi Gino,

    In Vienna Ensemble 4.1.10738, the (old) Vienna Instruments Player was still hardcoded into the VE application IIRC, so there is no way to get the new VI GUI into this version.

    I´d recommend you install the latest VI/VE build, which will install on your system - Vienna Instruments & Vienna Ensemble Software 5.4 (OS X 10.6.8) build 16488 from our Software Archive. 

    Best, Marnix

     

    Hi, Marnix!

    Thank you so much for your reply! I am so sorry for this late acknowledgement as I just realized that I had not turned on the email notification on posts and so I thought no one had ever replied to my post from last January until I decided to check directly here in the Community site. 😳

    Since you mentioned that this 16488 build will install and work on my current (old) system, I am assuming that any current PT sessions I have with VE instantiated in them would just open and function normally but with the new VI interface? 😝 In any case, I am currently downloading the version you had linked me to (thank you for ths!) and shall come back should I experience antyhing out of the oridnary. 😇 

    Much appreciation once again for your expertise and help! 😊

    Thanks! - GIno

     

    Hi, again!

    Sincere apologies for re-opening this thread. 😳 If it's alright, I would just like to clarifiy some things regarding the Vienna Instruments & Vienna Ensemble Software 5.4 (OS X 10.6.8) build 16488 from the VSL Software Archive before installing:

    1. Does installing this "VI/VE Software 5.4 (OSX 10.6.8) build 16488" automatically overwrite and update my existing VI/VE? Meaning, there would be no need to uninstall or do anything prior to installing this update? 😕

    2. Before I proceeded to the next step of the installation, I read the items, "Library Installer" and "Directory Manager", on the install window. Please bear with me as I'm not techie and am worried about possibbly accidentally erasing files that could render my current existing (old) set-up unusable, but would installing this update in any way affect my existing "100 SpecialEdition" folder on my external hard drive or any other files in my internal drive for that matter? 😕

    I am sorry for the series of questions, but I do hope you can help enlighten me again regarding this. 😊

    Thank you! - Gino
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    Hi Gino,

    1. Does installing this "VI/VE Software 5.4 (OSX 10.6.8) build 16488" automatically overwrite and update my existing VI/VE?

    ==> Yes.

    2. would installing this update in any way affect my existing "100 SpecialEdition" folder on my external hard drive or any other files in my internal drive for that matter?

    ==> No, the software installer will only update everything related to the Vienna Instruments and Vienna Ensemble applications, but not the sample content.

    Best, Marnix
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    @marnix said:

    Hi Gino,

    1. Does installing this "VI/VE Software 5.4 (OSX 10.6.8) build 16488" automatically overwrite and update my existing VI/VE?

    ==> Yes.

    2. would installing this update in any way affect my existing "100 SpecialEdition" folder on my external hard drive or any other files in my internal drive for that matter?

    ==> No, the software installer will only update everything related to the Vienna Instruments and Vienna Ensemble applications, but not the sample content.

    Best, Marnix

     

    Hi, Marnix

    Thank you so very much for your immediate reply and for clarifying my concerns. 👍

    Much appreciation! - Gino
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    @marnix said:

    Hi Gino,

    1. Does installing this "VI/VE Software 5.4 (OSX 10.6.8) build 16488" automatically overwrite and update my existing VI/VE?

    ==> Yes.

    2. would installing this update in any way affect my existing "100 SpecialEdition" folder on my external hard drive or any other files in my internal drive for that matter?

    ==> No, the software installer will only update everything related to the Vienna Instruments and Vienna Ensemble applications, but not the sample content.

    Best, Marnix

     

    Hi, Marnix

    Apologies for opening up this thread once more. 

    I was able to install the software version you recommended and it did reveal the newer Vienna Instruments GUI/interface in VE (non-pro).

    I can open Vienna Instruments StandAlone app, and when I open Vienna Ensemble in Pro Tools 10, I am able to load Vienna Instruments as well as see, load, and play its patches.

     

    However, my Vienna Instrument plug-in has disappeared from my plug-ins list in Pro Tools. I checked the plug-ins folder and saw that the RTAS version (.dpm file) has disappeared. (The Vienna Ensemble .dpm is still intact as well as the Vienna Ensemble .component, .vst, and .vst3 files.) 

    I can open Vienna Instruments StandAlone app, and when I open Vienna Ensemble in Pro Tools 10, I am able to load Vienna Instruments in there as well as see, load, and play its library patches.

    So, as a trial workaround, I tried to wrap the Vienna Instrument VST via FXpansion's VST-to-RTAS app and succeeded in doing so. I am now able to see it in the Pro Tools plug-in list and am able to load it. The GUI does load in Pro Tools; however, nothing is clickable in the GUI and so it is, for now, unusable.

    I thought maybe I'd just uninstall this newer VI/VE Software 5.4 (OSX 10.6.8) build 16488 and reinstall the older version I had, but the problem is that the older installers don't seem to be in the MyVSL downloads archive.

    Could I possibly ask for your help once more in resolving this issuse that had just come up? 😳

    Thank you very much - GIno