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Which notation software best with VSL?
Last post Sun, Mar 04 2018 by Cyril Blanc, 5 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2018 22:25
by fanagiga
Joined on Sat, Mar 13 2004, Posts 24

Dear Colleagues - 

Forgive the likely redundant post; I could not find a recent answer to this question - please feel free to point me to an answer that I am ignorant of. 

I am a hobbyist without a lot of time for making music.  I own Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, latest versions.  If using VSL is my primary goal, and I want to make full use of the software (articulations, etc.), which is the best package for me to really invest my time in getting good at?  Ease of use for note entry/composing on the score is my other priority. 

Sibelius - feels like there isn't a lot of support for controlling expression, etc.

Dorico - from reviews and posts, clumsy and not VSL ready, at least,  not ready for VSL to make a soundset...

Notion - not a lot of talk on this one on the forms - but a nice recent implementation with Synchron made me wonder if I should dust that one off?  

And of course, I own Cubase.  Unfortunately Logic went away (from PC) when Mac bought them...

Thanks for your help, 

Eric

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Posted on Sat, Mar 03 2018 20:38
by Tensivity
Joined on Sun, Dec 16 2012, San Francisco California USA, Posts 273

Eric,

I was the one that posted the implementation of Synchron Strings with Notion that you refer to.  I record all my work in Notion and I use VSL as well as many other libaries.  I can't say enough positive things about it.

You can hear samples of my work (no DAW involved) here:

www.tensivity.com/works

Many will react negatively before listening just because I made the statement that no DAW is involved.  I think my work stands for itself nicely!

By the way, I'm the first to admit that Notion doesn't engrave as nicely as F or S, but it PLAYS a lot easier and more naturally!

Michael

Posted on Sun, Mar 04 2018 03:17
by SonicSonar
Joined on Mon, Sep 17 2012, Posts 62

VSL flute has roughly 90 articulations.   Good luck using them.  Most notation software will use about a dozen articulations.  Cubase with their expression maps use about a dozen, any more and it is unreadable.  The rest of the articulations....well good luck.  VSL should be making notation software, but will never happen.    There is a dire need of better notation software with virtual instruments, the problem is, no one wants to build it.

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Posted on Sun, Mar 04 2018 03:28
by Tensivity
Joined on Sun, Dec 16 2012, San Francisco California USA, Posts 273

Originally Posted by: SonicSonar Go to Quoted Post

VSL flute has roughly 90 articulations.   Good luck using them.  Most notation software will use about a dozen articulations.  Cubase with their expression maps use about a dozen, any more and it is unreadable.  The rest of the articulations....well good luck.  VSL should be making notation software, but will never happen.    There is a dire need of better notation software with virtual instruments, the problem is, no one wants to build it.

I agree, I had high hopes for Overture, but it's pretty rough still in an initial public beta stage.  Dorico is the same.

I'm a huge proponent of the Universal Articulation Control Change (UACC) system as developed (and shared with the industry) by Spitfire.  It's a universal articulation change approach, like MIDI for instrument articulations.  Unfortunate that more library manufacturers don't get on board with this system.

Posted on Sun, Mar 04 2018 15:19
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2723

Originally Posted by: fanagiga Go to Quoted Post

Dorico - from reviews and posts, clumsy and not VSL ready, at least,  not ready for VSL to make a soundset...

You can use Cubase Expression Maps, you can import those Cubase Maps and you can also make and edit  in Dorico your Expression Map

This is my next task to do ;o)

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