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Key-switches vs Separate Articulations
Last post Tue, Feb 20 2018 by suon, 5 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Feb 13 2018 16:47
by GTBannah
Joined on Sat, May 01 2004, Guyana/Barbados, Posts 197

Hello!

I'm sure this has ben discussed before, but the search criteria in the subject line bore no fruit.

When creating templates, what has been the experience of members, regarding using key-switches vs placing each articulatioon on its own track?

Thanx!

Derrkins

PT 2018; Nuendo 7.1; Studio One 3; former Sonar and Sequoia user .... GENELEC 1031A, AVANTONE MIX CUBES (Active); Sibelius 7.0; Dorico; Mac Mini 2.6 GHz Core i7, OS X 10.12.2 Sierra; 16GB RAM; 480 GB System SSD; 1 TB 7200 rpm Audio; 3 TB samples; Roland A-800 Pro controller; GOOD BYE PEE SEA!!

Posted on Tue, Feb 13 2018 22:23
by stephen limbaugh
Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts 282

For me, I like one instrument per track and use keyswitches.  I customize each matrix in VIpro2 with black key/white key combinations for X&Y values.  Generally, I can cycle through the correct articulations and still ride the mod wheel, which I've assigned as my velocity x-fade for a live performance, then go back and ride any other CC, such as expression or slot x-fade for tweeking.

The purpose of this is for me to treat it like it is a real instrument... like an organ or something.  I've found that yields better musical results.

The other feels more like "programming" to me, which could be more appealing to someone with different creative dispositions.

To add to the insanity, and people may call this a colossal waste of time, is that I create an entirely new template for each new project I start (as stated above though, my VIpro2 matrices are already in place).  On top of that, I do not put anything on the tempo grid.  Nothing is recorded to a click, unless it is some really specific delay/drum/EDM thing.

I can totally understand the appeal of a template, which mimics a creator walking into a room full of a thousand instruments already mic'd up and ready to go -- you just point to one and it plays.  BPMs all mapped out and perfect... a great guide track, etc.  

So at the end of the day, whatever gives a person better musical results, they should do that.

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Posted on Wed, Feb 14 2018 22:37
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1788

Originally Posted by: GTBannah Go to Quoted Post

When creating templates, what has been the experience of members, regarding using key-switches vs placing each articulatioon on its own track?

Hi

In my view, it depends on how many articulations you want to use per instrument. So if you use Special Edition Libraries, it may make sense to put a staccato-, a sutain-, a sforzato- and a legato- track per instrument. But as soon as you play with full libraries (more articulations), this "track-per-articulation system" would be a bit confusing. Especially if you change the articulations a lot, what would actually be necessary for a natural sound. Then a melody would be split up so often that everything would be quite confusing. Furthermore, one has to keep in mind that samples also often include control curves. In such a situation, I personally like the melody in one track and not splitted up into many many pieces ...

Imagine this melody in articulation snippets:

http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vi-tips--tricks-3/index.php (No21)  ...and further the whole orchestra as well...

 

All the best

Beat

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Wed, Feb 14 2018 22:51
by GTBannah
Joined on Sat, May 01 2004, Guyana/Barbados, Posts 197

You could easily end up with twenty tracks for the melody alone. :D

Derrkins

PT 2018; Nuendo 7.1; Studio One 3; former Sonar and Sequoia user .... GENELEC 1031A, AVANTONE MIX CUBES (Active); Sibelius 7.0; Dorico; Mac Mini 2.6 GHz Core i7, OS X 10.12.2 Sierra; 16GB RAM; 480 GB System SSD; 1 TB 7200 rpm Audio; 3 TB samples; Roland A-800 Pro controller; GOOD BYE PEE SEA!!

Posted on Tue, Feb 20 2018 19:11
by suon
Joined on Sat, Sep 04 2010, Posts 106

What works for me is to have two (or multiple) duplicates of the same keyswitched instrument, each instance controlled by different MIDI tracks, but otherwise they are mixed exactly the same.

This way, (a) it avoids the track-count explosion, and (b) allows the instrument to be used in more agile and varied ways that keyswitching is good for, and (c) still allows for manual layering of different articulations when a single instrument articulation isn't enough.

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