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Synchron Piano sympathetic resonance and silent key
Last post Tue, May 26 2020 by VladKo, 31 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Apr 25 2020 06:42
by TonvanderVoort
Joined on Fri, Apr 17 2020, Posts 1
Hi Paul,

Just purchased the Synchron piano bundle and missed the silent key action in the first piece I played.

So instead of 5 there are now 6 pianists requesting it.

Love the product, but this is a shortcoming.

Ton
Posted on Sat, May 16 2020 15:18
by Matte
Joined on Sun, May 10 2020, Posts 5

Hi Paul,

I am interested in buying the Synchron Steinway but I can not listen to the sympathetic resonance feature via the pubblished demos. Therefore, I would like to ask you if this feature is currently working well or if you are working to fix it.

Thanks

Matteo

Posted on Sat, May 16 2020 16:08
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 614

Paul, may you add a 7th user asking for it? While I only have the light version of the Steinway and the full version of the Blüthner, in general I would say that silent key is needed for maximum realism. It is also needed for playing harmonics.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, May 16 2020 17:28
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11931

Hi, 

Thanks for making this request more visible. This feature is still on our to-do list, but without ETA. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, May 17 2020 09:45
by hazend_18867
Joined on Mon, Jan 02 2006, Posts 12


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Hi everyone (and of course especially Paul!)

 

I was one of the five people first asking if it was possible to implement a silent key function. It might not be a main stream functionality - you can play all the classics and it is never used in any film score as far as I know - but if you're a bit more adventurous, it is a must. Bartók used it, and avant garde classics like Berio, Boulez, Ligeti and Stockhausen did so too (quite often). Moreover, the implicated sostenuto function makes no sense without the silent key function. All the top competitors (Garritan, True Keys, Synthology) have this function. There must be a way to implement it and make the VSL pianos absolutely perfect - they are already so much better then anything else out there!

 

I guess it is a matter of more people asking for it. Hope this helps…

 

All the best and let’s hear from you!

 

Roeland

Posted on Tue, May 19 2020 01:09
by VladKo
Joined on Tue, Apr 07 2020, Posts 16

Let me add my voice to the (not as big as I'd like) crowd: silent key and built-in velocity curve editor are 2 main features I miss with Synchron Pianos

Vlad
Posted on Tue, May 19 2020 01:20
by joel10
Joined on Mon, May 18 2020, Posts 1

Same here, silent key, a velocity curve editor and better sympathetic resonance would make the VSL Pianos the undisputed kings of being the best alternative to a real acoustic out there.

Posted on Wed, May 20 2020 09:23
by Matte
Joined on Sun, May 10 2020, Posts 5

Hello Paul,

I have purchased the Steinway and tested it. Unfortunately the feature called "sympathetic resonance" does not work as sympathetic resonace would, destroying the sound naturalness. Although the piano has other good qualities, this is a bit disappointing if compared to a much cheaper piano like the Garritan Cfx, which has a good sympathetic resonance feature. 

To decide whether to keep the piano, may you assure me that you are fixing this issue in reasonable time?

Thanks

Matteo

Posted on Wed, May 20 2020 13:37
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11931

Hi Matteo, 

I agree, it's not as great as it could be. We'll have to invest some more research time to improve it, and I hope we can get to it soon. But I can't give you an ETA. 

Personally, I wouldn't make this a decisive factor for your decision, those Synchron Pianos are great as they are. Which won't keep us from improving them! Just my opinion 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, May 20 2020 14:42
by Matte
Joined on Sun, May 10 2020, Posts 5

Hello Paul,

Thank you for the quick answer and for your advice. I believe that Synchron Pianos are great too and I am glad to know that you'll continue researching to improve also this feature. 

Best regards

Matteo

Posted on Tue, May 26 2020 17:57
by VladKo
Joined on Tue, Apr 07 2020, Posts 16

Paul,

Please make sure that silent key, when implemented, is an option that can be turned on/off, and has configurable velocity threshold value.
Here is what I mean: if it is turned on and set to 5, then keys pressed with velocity 5 or below are treated as silent; and if it is turned off, than even velocity 1 produces ppppp sound.

Vlad
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