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Close mics A/B comparaison
Last post Sun, May 27 2018 by al_lupo77, 9 replies.
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Posted on Fri, May 18 2018 22:52
by davekc
Joined on Mon, Oct 15 2007, Québec (Canada), Posts 5

I bought the standard version, and still hesitate to update to the full one... just for the ribbon mics. There is a small demo in the last walkthru video, but would it be possible to have an A/B comparaison audio file of the close mics with the same song!? Thanks a lot!

Posted on Tue, May 22 2018 13:11
by V_ad_im
Joined on Fri, Feb 25 2011, Posts 130

Very strange, it seems that VSL not wants a money) There are potential buyers of a full version, but it's not possible to make a choice without examples. Is anybody here, who have a full version?

Posted on Tue, May 22 2018 17:46
by Erard
Joined on Wed, May 31 2017, Posts 2

Hello,
I rendered a few days ago a short piece (all staccato playing) from a midi file and covered almost all the mics.
All the recordings are without any eq. The only differences from default are: Dynamic 80, Body 40%. The last one gives a little more bass to the tone.

Close1
Close2
Mid1
Mid2
Main
Surround
High
High-Sur

Hope this helps.

Posted on Tue, May 22 2018 18:53
by V_ad_im
Joined on Fri, Feb 25 2011, Posts 130

Thanks a lot, Erard!

Posted on Wed, May 23 2018 20:13
by davekc
Joined on Mon, Oct 15 2007, Québec (Canada), Posts 5

You're the man! Yeah, thanks a lot ;)

Posted on Fri, May 25 2018 02:47
by mobileavatar
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2011, Posts 64

If I may chime in (without a demo), I find the true value of close-mic 2 is not just how great it sounds on its own, but also how it combines to work with close-mic 1, which really accentuates the spatial depth and its "presence" (please refer to the attached screencap, a "Player" preset with the surround-to-stereo mixdown).

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Posted on Fri, May 25 2018 02:53
by stephen limbaugh
Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts 278

Originally Posted by: mobileavatar Go to Quoted Post

If I may chime in (without a demo), I find the true value of close-mic 2 is not just how great it sounds on its own, but also how it combine to work with close-mic 1, which really accentuates the spatial depth and its "presence" (please refer to the attached screencap, a "Player" preset with the surround-to-stereo mixdown).

Absolutely.  The combination really works well for me too.

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Posted on Sun, May 27 2018 16:50
by davekc
Joined on Mon, Oct 15 2007, Québec (Canada), Posts 5

OK, you all convinced me! I've also played around with the stems Erard submitted to reach the same conclusion: close 1 and 2 mix perfectly well, resulting in a much richer/natural sound... Pretty pleasing result!

Posted on Sun, May 27 2018 17:08
by al_lupo77
Joined on Fri, Jun 09 2017, Posts 51

Just a note: Close 1 are Schoeps MK 4 cardioids, that is a well-known small diaphragm condenser mic in orchestral recording; on the other side Close 2 are Royer Labs SF-24, that is a ribbon mic. The rich sound of the latter is  the natural being of ribbons for orchestral music :)

Moreover, Close1 is an ORTF config  of cardioids close to hammers, so result is quite dry; Close 2 is a Blumlein pair (SF-24 is a figure 8), so it catch some of the room sound.

 

Personally, I love ribbons...

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