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Synchron Orchestral Strings in Synchron Player -- when?
Last post Wed, Jun 20 2018 by garylionelli, 90 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jun 01 2018 20:43
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 181

Probably next week. Fingers crossed.

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Posted on Sun, Jun 03 2018 16:37
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5513

Sorry for saying people here are sickening and disgusting - that was outrageous, not to mention egregious, atrocious and abhorrent.   There are many fine composers and musicians here.  People are excited about the Synchron releases and get agitated.  A lot like at the zoo, when the apes start shaking the bars.  I know I shake mine here at The Institute.  

Posted on Sun, Jun 03 2018 17:08
by Acclarion
Joined on Sat, Aug 15 2015, Canada, Eh!, Posts 513

Originally Posted by: William Go to Quoted Post

Sorry for saying people here are sickening and disgusting - that was outrageous, not to mention egregious, atrocious and abhorrent.   There are many fine composers and musicians here.  People are excited about the Synchron releases and get agitated.  A lot like at the zoo, when the apes start shaking the bars.  I know I shake mine here at The Institute.  

Now, this is brilliant, and no doubt a fine use of inspiration from the recent Roseanne fiasco :)

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Posted on Mon, Jun 04 2018 07:38
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 242

Originally Posted by: LAJ Go to Quoted Post
Count down started yesterday with „7“ days (max.)

Here we go ...

SIX!

ZERO?

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Posted on Mon, Jun 04 2018 16:03
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5513

Dave, unlike Roseanne, I am not bigoted.  I strive to offend everyone equally.  

Posted on Tue, Jun 05 2018 00:41
by yilalatavsl
Joined on Tue, Nov 03 2015, Posts 41

Originally Posted by: gabriel81 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: LAJ Go to Quoted Post
Count down started yesterday with „7“ days (max.)

Here we go ...

SIX!

ZERO?

 

 

Maybe he'll be in June, maybe July, August, September

Posted on Wed, Jun 06 2018 06:19
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 409

I have a feeling it will be finally released on Thursday June 7th    

Posted on Wed, Jun 06 2018 09:52
by Michaël G.
Joined on Fri, Jan 25 2008, Posts 36

Yeah, 7 is a great number !

Posted on Wed, Jun 06 2018 11:13
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 518

 ... when? ...

... less time than the moon turns once around the earth and once around its own axis ...

Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 17:47
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 409

Hello Paul/VSL,

Can you give us an update on when you will be finally releasing the Synchron Player for Synchron Strings 1 ? 

I hope you are getting the bugs fixed, and will release it in a matter of days, or hours ! 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 19:20
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12190

Hi, 

The good news is: Our development team is tackling that bug right now, and we will gp through one last testing round. 

I know it's another delay, and I hope we will be ready next week. 

Best, 
Paul

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Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 23:12
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 409

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

The good news is: Our development team is tackling that bug right now, and we will gp through one last testing round. 

I know it's another delay, and I hope we will be ready next week. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the update. 

 As you know, it has been a very long wait for this Synchron Player to materialize.  

For me, the good news will happen when you actually, and finally release the new Synchron Player for Synchron Strings 1. , and demonstrate how great the new player is in terms of workflow, improved Legato functionality, and much more. 

Hopefully (fingers crossed) you will get to release the Player next week, and post some videos showing it in action, with some helpful video tutorials, and more audio demos. Although, I'm not going to hold my breath for it to be released next week, given the countless delays this release has encountered. 

Good Luck & Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 23:54
by mobileavatar
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2011, Posts 64

I agree VSL should take all the time their development team needs.

But I do not understand, if it is only one bug, why they cannot show new video tutorials in the meantime??!!

The fact there is no new audio demo by now CONFIRMS Paul's earlier reply: the new player will not improve anything we hope for.

Just my two cents.

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 00:02
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 409

Originally Posted by: mobileavatar Go to Quoted Post

The fact there is no new audio demo by now CONFIRMS Paul's earlier reply: the new player will not improve anything we hope for.

Just my two cents.

I surely don't agree with you.

I don't think you can deduct such a concrete conclusion just because there has not been any new demos posted.  The new Synchron Player for Synchron Strings 1 is not ready, how can they make demos using it ?  It has some issue/s that are being debugged, so let's wait and see, before rushing to conclusions. 

I also think it would be very helpful if Paul/VSL clarifies his statement regarding if the Synchron Player will offer improved legato functionality for Synchron Strings 1 or Not.   If Not, please let us know, this is a very important detail that VSL needs to address, fix, or clarify to us. 

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 01:52
by mobileavatar
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2011, Posts 64

Originally Posted by: muziksculp Go to Quoted Post

I also think it would be very helpful if Paul/VSL clarifies his statement regarding if the Synchron Player will offer improved legato functionality for Synchron Strings 1 or Not.

Yes, I agree. VSL should clarify that aspect NOW, instead of keeping on procrastinating the answer until the release of the Player (for us to find out ourselves).

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 01:54
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 409

Originally Posted by: mobileavatar Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: muziksculp Go to Quoted Post

I also think it would be very helpful if Paul/VSL clarifies his statement regarding if the Synchron Player will offer improved legato functionality for Synchron Strings 1 or Not.

Yes, I agree. VSL should clarify that aspect NOW, and not procrastinate until the release of the Player (for us to find out ourselves).

Yes. Exactly ! 

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 01:58
by mobileavatar
Joined on Mon, Jul 25 2011, Posts 64

Originally Posted by: muziksculp Go to Quoted Post

Yes. Exactly ! 

@muziksculp

I think Paul/VSL has already provided his answer.

"Silence is Golden."

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 11:16
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 953

Originally Posted by: mobileavatar Go to Quoted Post

the new player will not improve anything we hope for.

The Player introduces with the 8 Articulation-dimensions with up to 9 possible simultaneuosly mixable acoustic Perspectives a completly new concept to organize the rich variety of articulations VSL provide in an as musical reasonable as custumizable way which surpasses definitly everything any other Sampleproducer ever dreamed about.

This is of a such fundamental significance since it will streamline the way we will work with VSL's new libraires (at least) without limiting their power in any way. If all possible interactions which are opened by this powerful concept really do work as seamlessly as it is intended (and of course this does justify intensive testing and bugresearch) than this will raise VSL and their Libraries nearly in another Universe of working with orchestral Samplelibraries. Imho, thats pretty enough reason to be patient for.

What ever anyone pretends he should complain about what ever Legato-Detail. This is such a quantum leap forward, that imho your statement focussing nothing but an alledged Legato sensibility appeare to me - excuse me - but honestly "a bit" ignorant.

Discuss whatever legato sensibility one or another here might have, but to talk as if this would be the only aspect worth to consider concerning an incredible new Sampleplayerconcept hitting the marke does not seem to be that much informed nor convincing to me.

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 17:51
by Sovereign
Joined on Sun, Nov 05 2017, Posts 19

Quantum-leap? It's a necessity foremost. Multiple mixable perspectives is not something new. If you're looking for a "quantum-leap" in that regard, Hans Zimmer Strings has way more acoustic perspectives than Synchron Strings.

Posted on Fri, Jun 08 2018 19:13
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 953

Originally Posted by: Sovereign Go to Quoted Post

Quantum-leap? It's a necessity foremost. Multiple mixable perspectives is not something new. If you're looking for a "quantum-leap" in that regard, Hans Zimmer Strings has way more acoustic perspectives than Synchron Strings.

Sorry, but I fear you misunderstood Hans Zimmer Strings a bit. HZS provide You per section (not 9 different Mikrophonepositions) but as far as I understood it only the choice between 1 (Basses), 2 (Violas) up to 5 different recording positions of the Sections. Yes each seem to be recorded with a different amount of Microphones. But you do not have (as far as I know) for each microphoneposition seperate Samples as you have in Synchron Strings.

If you load for instance the Patch "60 Cellos all in one" you do not load for each of "26" used Microphones a complete sets of all available patches but as far as I understand just one Sampleset for each of the up to five 'recordingpositions' of the Cellos . (But of course not for each of the 26 used Microphones to record them.)

In Synchron Strings you definitly can load and mix based on complete seperate samplesets for each of the 8 different available "Microphone-positions". But you are right to have multiple Microphonepositions might be developed by VSL more extensive than other Orchestra libraries with usually 3-5 (sometimes 7) Microphone-positions available for the mix. But this allone might not be regarded as the "Quantum Leap"

The "Quantum Leap" is imho that VSL allow at the same time in an absolutly unprecedented way to switch or/and blend through up to 8 "dimensions of articulations" combined with the fexibility the 8 Microphonepositions. 

And the whole project and Concept is not aimed to raise the custome-rattention with extreme but musicaly pretty useless and scarcly reasonable Buzzwordings but based on very realisitic orchestral situation and Mixing setup.

Regarding the fact, that HZS make with all their patches and recording-positions not more than a third of the sampleamount of Synchronstrings I (Which is just the First Volume of the complete Strings to come) it appears to me a bit to courageuos to compare something like the "Buy-me-because I-am-XXL Jumbo-size super exagerated  Hans Zimmer Strings" with a serious and in its variety and organisation tremendous powerfull Orchestral project like the Synchron-series.  

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
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