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Last post Wed, Jul 18 2018 by rogercollege, 11 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jun 06 2018 23:18
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8

Hello,

 

I'm trying route the virtual instrument Hauptwerk (v4.2.1.003) on my PC slave via VEP 5 (v5.4.16181).  Master computer is a Mac.  

 

Any experience with this combination? Is this even possible?

 

Much appreciated!

 

tech specs....

 

Master:

Mac OSX 10.12.6

2.7 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon

128 GB RAM

Pro Tools 12.8.3

VEP 5.4.16181

 

Slave PC:

3.00GHz Intel Core i7-5960X

64 GB RAM

Windows 10 Pro v1607

Hauptwerk 4.2.1.003

VEP 5.4.16181

Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 06:27
by stephen limbaugh
Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts 163

I use Hauptwerk all the time.  I'm on VEP 6, but I think setup is the same.

  1. Open Hauptwerk and in organ settings go to "keyboards"
  2. Select a keyboard (great, swell, pedal, etc) and then assign "input" to "direct input from your MIDI organ console/keyboard/sequencer"
  3. Set "MIDI IN port" to "Hauptwerk VST Link"
  4. Set "MIDI channel" to "<channel whatever>"
  5. Repeat steps 2-4 for each keyboard making sure you put each keyboard on a different channel
  6. In VEP, insert plugin Hauptwerk VST Link
  7. In VEP, change the MIDI channel to "all"
  8. In your DAW, when you then select which MIDI channel you're going to record on, that keyboard should play only.

 

Hauptwerk is a disaster to learn, and the manuel is literally 700 pages long and incredibly complex.  If you have any other questions, please ask.  I'd like the time I've spent learning the info on this topic to be shared with others.  

Posted on Thu, Jun 07 2018 15:40
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8
Thanks so much. I will look at this early next week and give an update. I’m also sure I’ll have more questions.

Much appreciated!
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 15:02
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8

Hello,

I'm having a few problems with the routing steps you've outlined.

  • After installation, Hauptwerk places 4 application shortcuts on my desktop (Hauptwerk and Hauptwerk alt configs 1-3).  My guess is that this is provided so I can customize 4 different organs with different settings.
  • When I load Hauptwerk with the stock St. Anne's Moseley and follow your steps, I am not given the "Hauptwerk VST Link" after selecting the "MIDI IN port" drop down window.
  • Also, when I open VEP, Hauptwerk is not listed as a plugin option for insertion.  Not sure how VEP sees/locates Hauptwerk.  All other plugins used with VEP are easliy insertable (Kontakt, Spectrasonics, U-he, etc...) 

Thoughts?

Thanks

Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 15:40
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8

I've reset audio configurations and succesfully setup Hauptwerk as you have outlined, however, I'm still not sure how to insert the Hauptwerk VST Link in VEP.  

Within Hauptwerk, I've setup the following....

General Settings>Audio outputs>Main>Audio output device is set as Hauptwerk VST Link.  

This seems like the correct config based on the Hauptwerk manual page 181, however, I'm still not seeing anything inside VEP. 

Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 17:06
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 932

Make sure, that the file "HauptwerkVSTLink-64bit.dll" (or/and "HauptwerkVSTLink-32bit.dll" if you run a 32bit Version of VE) is located in one of the Pluginfolders listed in the VST-Settings of the VE-Preferences Plugins.

In VE you will find than in your  Plugin-selection-menu an entry "Milan Digital Audio" which lets you select the "Hauptwerk VST-Link".

Do not expect to get the Hauptwerk-UI loaded inside VE the Plugin is just the connection "Link" to connect with the parallel opend Hauptwerk.

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3443 mp3 with 162 hours of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de ...Synchron-Strings explored in 44 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Player Strings.

...anything comparable anywhere?
Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 19:19
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8

Ok.  I think I'm in business but now have a question about additional libraries from Milan.  

Following the download links, it appears that it wants me to allow the instrument to install the libraries after I direct the instrument to the library/content location after download.  It also says to not modify or open the file after downloading but to let the Hauptwerk "File | Install organ or temperament" do the installing.  

I need these libraries to reside on a large SSD drive installed in my computer...not my operating system drive.  Will this process give destination options or simply install onto the same drive that houses the instrument itself?    

Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 19:35
by stephen limbaugh
Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts 163

It should give you an option to house those libraries where ever you want.  So when you are in Hauptwerk, you got to file --> Install Organ or temperament, that organ folder can be located anywhere.

Posted on Tue, Jun 12 2018 23:50
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 932

Originally Posted by: stephen limbaugh Go to Quoted Post

It should give you an option to house those libraries where ever you want.  So when you are in Hauptwerk, you got to file --> Install Organ or temperament, that organ folder can be located anywhere.

As far as I know only during installation. There seem to be no option to change the Library location after (as we can do in VI/VE with the diretory manager). If you want to have the Library on another HDD/SSD there seem to be no other way, but installing the library once again.

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3443 mp3 with 162 hours of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de ...Synchron-Strings explored in 44 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Player Strings.

...anything comparable anywhere?
Posted on Wed, Jun 13 2018 12:00
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 932

Originally Posted by: stephen limbaugh Go to Quoted Post

Hauptwerk is a disaster to learn, and the manuel is literally 700 pages long and incredibly complex. 

Hauptwerk was initially and for the largest part of its user not intended for the use with a DAW but with a Organ Midi console. 

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3443 mp3 with 162 hours of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de ...Synchron-Strings explored in 44 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Player Strings.

...anything comparable anywhere?
Posted on Wed, Jul 18 2018 21:11
by rogercollege
Joined on Tue, Apr 24 2012, Posts 8

Hello,

Any tips for how to save modifications made to organ instruments?  I don't see a clear way to recall changes made after closing and reloading.  I have tried using "Save combination as", whereby I am prompted to give the combination a name, but when I try to reload the newly saved combination, nothing changes with the instrument. I'm then left reconstructing the sound.   

I need to be able to save my custom organ settings to work with on-going projects.  What am I missing?

Thanks again! 

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