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Obviously for now there is no recorded Synchron muted strings. I am trying to use the filter for a con sord. passage, but it has very little effect and even when it does, the sound is really not like con sord. I'm using LP6 with a filter value of mayb e10.
Can anyone suggest a better way to imitate the con sord?
Thanks,
Alan Belkin
Of course as usual I expect that Synchron Strings II will include kind of a complete Sampleset with Sordino. For Now I did the nearly same:
1) avoid as much as possible scores demanding sordinoi-Passages, and
2) if there still some not avoidable I use not LPF6 but LPF12 completly open for non sordino and completly closed for the sordino effect.
You can hear the result in the Tschaikowsky Serenade at the Ending of the III. Movement where the strings repeat the slow chordmelody from the start of the movement but this time muted. the slow Beginning of the IV.Movement is likewise LPF12-muted you can hear the difference, when the high tempo of the movement starts.
I confess it is not as beautiful as real sordino-samples are, but it is more than nothing (and comparable to many other Libraries which only provicde that "Filtertrick" or even worser only Sordino-sustains) I hope that helps at least a bit for the moment. Otherwise you probably have to wait for further Synchronstring releases.
I came across [url=http://www.numericalsound.com/universal_sordino.html]this[/url] product, which is supposed to do exactly what you want. Just in case you didn't see it. After listening to the provided demos I conclude that the matter is not as simple as applying a filter, since even a dedicated product does only a rough approximation. But you can judge for yourself.
I came across [url=http://www.numericalsound.com/universal_sordino.html]this[/url] product, which is supposed to do exactly what you want. Just in case you didn't see it. After listening to the provided demos I conclude that the matter is not as simple as applying a filter, since even a dedicated product does only a rough approximation. But you can judge for yourself.
This is a good reference, tanks for posting.
If I remeber right, than numerical sounds already worked together with VSL for some Impuls responses of a VSL MIR precursor, what inspire some confidence. Nevertheless, I would expect to get sooner or later real sordino-sample for the Synchron-Strings to, as we got them for Appassionata, Chamber, Solo or Dimensionstrings..
Insofar I would only search for am interim solution. On the other hand it seemed to me reasonable to know, if those Timbral-responses are compatible with the new Synchron-Player-Strings. I am at least not sure about.
The best solution: try to postpone Project that demands a larger extend of muted strings until we got real sordino-patches 😉
Sorry, I strongly disagree. Con sordino is so important and the only way to get that sound is to sample the real thing. It's a "must have" and I will create whatever extra drive space is necessary. By the way, if I postpone my projects that involve con sordino, I'll have nothing to do.
If I remeber right, than numerical sounds already worked together with VSL for some Impuls responses of a VSL MIR precursor, what inspire some confidence. [...]
No, that wasn't the case. Ernest Cholakis of Numerical Sound created several highly impressive IR packages for the Convolution Reverb included in legacy Vienna Suite. But that was quite some time after the original Vienna MIR had been released, unrelated to this product.
If I remeber right, than numerical sounds already worked together with VSL for some Impuls responses of a VSL MIR precursor, what inspire some confidence. [...]
No, that wasn't the case. Ernest Cholakis of Numerical Sound created several highly impressive IR packages for the Convolution Reverb included in legacy Vienna Suite. But that was quite some time after the original Vienna MIR had been released, unrelated to this product.
I didn't meant to advertise anything, I just remebered that there was something in the VSL-Software (not related to MIR) which was anyhow related to numerical sound. If the only thing I know about a company that there was some kind of collaborative Contact to VSL that does not sound that bad to me. However I am sure it is worth to wait for real sordino samples, since tricks for an interim solution are already possible with the inbuild Filter and other Libraries often dont get any further than that at all.
In short (numerical whatever): Tricks are already possible without any external help and a real sordino sampleset would be finaly the most satisfying solution.
