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UPDATE 2019: VIENNA SMART ORCHESTRA
Last post Mon, Feb 25 2019 by seanmccoy, 110 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Sep 16 2018 06:25
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12094

Hi Cyril, 

Synchron Player is simply another AU plug-in, should appear in your sequencer right away. 

Simple workaround to use it as a standalone: Vienna Ensemble / PRO. 

If it doesn't show up in Logic, try to validate it manually in Logic's Plug-in Manager. 

And if that doesn't work, you can celar your Audio Unit cache like this (it will make Logic rebuild it's plug-in Au cache): 

1) In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.

2) Type ~/Library/Caches in the "Go to the folder" field.

3) Press the Go button. Remove the "com.apple.audiounits.cache" file. Remove the ~/Library/Caches/AudioUnitCache folder.

EDIT: Are you on High Sierra, by any chance?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Sep 16 2018 13:24
by Stefan Schramm
Joined on Fri, Jan 04 2008, Germany, Posts 24

Just watched your YT videos... is the smart orchestra a new front end to the Cube instruments or are these different samples?

Thanks,

Stefan

Intel 2x3Ghz Duo, 8G Ram, 10.6.8,, Logic 9, DP7, PT7, Symphonic Cube, VI Pro2
Posted on Sun, Sep 16 2018 19:28
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2658

Hi Paul

Thanks for your answer.

This norning I have manage to make it work and I have made a little manual For Logic at :

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t50300-Installing-Vienna-Smart-Orchestra-in--Logic#post277399

I have start to use it, it is a great product

It will be so great that you are compatible  with NKS and the NI keyboards, no more headache with the colored keyswitches ; you can color the keys as in VSO

Look at this quick video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdHQFEZ0QcA

There are plenty other features, chord progression/limitation, sequencer .....If you have time there are plenty video in Youtube

Thanks in advance for your users playing VSL in live

Best

 

Cyril

 

 

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Cyril, 

Synchron Player is simply another AU plug-in, should appear in your sequencer right away. 

Simple workaround to use it as a standalone: Vienna Ensemble / PRO. 

If it doesn't show up in Logic, try to validate it manually in Logic's Plug-in Manager. 

And if that doesn't work, you can celar your Audio Unit cache like this (it will make Logic rebuild it's plug-in Au cache): 

1) In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.

2) Type ~/Library/Caches in the "Go to the folder" field.

3) Press the Go button. Remove the "com.apple.audiounits.cache" file. Remove the ~/Library/Caches/AudioUnitCache folder.

EDIT: Are you on High Sierra, by any chance?

Best, 
Paul

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
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Posted on Sun, Sep 16 2018 21:07
by IOANNIS SAOULIS
Joined on Sun, Jan 02 2005, Greece, Posts 8

Hi Paul, thanks for the info.

However I did not realy understood what VSO is.

Is it just a setup utilizing already purchased libraries or you packed the Syncroon library in to a simple new box?

Will I download a new library (samples) or only software which combines older and new samples?

In the sample content there is no number indicating the volume in GB as usual. Therefore my questions.

Please advise

Yannis

Yannis Saoulis
PC1: Intel i7 8 core / 64Gb Ram,
PC2: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core / 64GB
ProTools HDX/OMNI, C|24.
VSL Synchroon Library, VIENNA ENSEMBLE PRO 7, EPIC ORCHESTRA 2.0 Library,SYNCHRON-ized DIMENSION BRASS I Standard Library, SYNCHRON PERCUSSION I Standard Library, YAMAHA CFX Full Library, SYNCHRON STRINGS I Full Library, VI libraries
Tags: VSO
Posted on Tue, Sep 18 2018 20:31
by patmaddox
Joined on Tue, Jun 05 2018, Posts 52

Is there a Sibelius sound set for this? I'd like to be able to specify e.g. strings, winds, brass in the mixer and then use articulation markings in the score.

There's not much here, just a few simple key switches, so I can take a stab at making a sound set if there's nothing available or coming soon. I figured I'd check in with the experts first though :)

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 08:10
by songdiver
Joined on Tue, May 26 2015, Posts 12

1) Is it possible to run Smart Orchestra and Special Edition simultaneously in Cubase? To be able to have a layer done with VSO "topped" or enriched by certain instruments, etc. of VSE?

2) Am i forced (in VSO) to have (for example the strings or strings+wood) sections always play unisono (violins, violas, celli, bass, ...) or can i do arrangements with separate voices (v, v, c, b, ...)?

Or do i maybe have a conceptual misunderstanding (of VSO) here in both questions?

Thanks for  advice,

Andy

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 09:04
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12094

Hi, 

@Yannis Saoulis: 

1) Is it just a setup utilizing already purchased libraries or you packed the Syncroon library in to a simple new box?
=> It's a simple new box. 

2) Will I download a new library (samples) or only software which combines older and new samples?
=> It is a new library. 

3) In the sample content there is no number indicating the volume in GB as usual. Therefore my questions.
=> Here you go, 9.92 GB on your harddrive (4 GB to download) 

@patmaddox: Not sure if the VSO Soundset is already in the current Sibelius Soundsets Download, but I know that Andreas has been working on it. 

@songdiver: 

1) Is it possible to run Smart Orchestra and Special Edition simultaneously in Cubase? To be able to have a layer done with VSO "topped" or enriched by certain instruments, etc. of VSE?

=>Absolutely. No problem. 

2) Am i forced (in VSO) to have (for example the strings or strings+wood) sections always play unisono (violins, violas, celli, bass, ...) or can i do arrangements with separate voices (v, v, c, b, ...)?

=> All sections are pre-arranged and come with different involvement of the bass instruments (2 lowest octaves with additional bass instruments, 1 lowest octave and no bass instruments). 
=> Additionally, you can use the Solo Legato instruments, also for the violins. 

Best, 
Paul 

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 09:55
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3253

Hello patmaddox!

The latest version of the VSL Soundset Installer for Sibelius includes a sound set for the Vienna Smart Orchestra.
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Notation_Related

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 09:55
by gabegarza1021
Joined on Mon, Mar 04 2013, Posts 2

Does Vienna Smart Orchestra work with Soft-eLicenser?

Just looking for a yes or no answer. 

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 09:59
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3253

Hello gabegarza1021!

Our products don't work with Soft-eLicenser in general. You will need a Vienna Key or a compatible eLicenser key.
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Product_Overview/ViennaKey

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 10:00
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 984

@gabegarza1021: No.

Best, Marnix

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 15:12
by gabegarza1021
Joined on Mon, Mar 04 2013, Posts 2

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello gabegarza1021!

Our products don't work with Soft-eLicenser in general. You will need a Vienna Key or a compatible eLicenser key.
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Product_Overview/ViennaKey

Best regards,
Andi

Andi,

That's for the reply and I'll make sure to get The Vienna key. I don't want to take a chance on getting the wrong eLicenser key if certian ones are in-compatible. 

Gabe

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 15:50
by patmaddox
Joined on Tue, Jun 05 2018, Posts 52

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello patmaddox!

The latest version of the VSL Soundset Installer for Sibelius includes a sound set for the Vienna Smart Orchestra.
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Notation_Related

Best regards,
Andi

Yay! Thank you :)

Posted on Thu, Sep 20 2018 18:53
by LeanderAT
Joined on Sun, Jan 08 2017, Posts 20

Hello!

I already have VSL Special Collection Vol. 1 and 2. What's the purpose of Smart Orchestra? What can it do that the other ones can't?

Posted on Fri, Sep 21 2018 10:03
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12094

Hi Leander, 

Check out the videos of the Vienna Smart Orchestra, that should show the differences in the best way. 

Clean organization, designed for instant writing / playing, with an integrated mixer. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Sep 21 2018 19:16
by S4410
Joined on Mon, Apr 28 2014, Posts 7

Hi, i am having constant crashes in Cubase Pro 9.5 (also checked with Cubase 8.5 & Dorico 2 with same results) as soon as any midi note is played. Unfortunately i was not aware that a SSD  disk is needed , there is not one in my pc, only HDD (my fault). 

I also tried changing my Synchron Player SETTINGS => Engine to 16,384 samples and higher, same result

VSO is not crashing in Reaper only in Steiberg programs it seems.

I read somewhere that you have a refund policy within a month of purchase,is this true? I bought the library yesterday from your webshop. As i work with Steinberg products mainly. i am afraid that i won't be able to use it for now....

My specs: Windows 10 Home | i7 3770k | Intel DZ77BH-55K | 32GB | Asus AMD 6450 | RME HDSPe AiO | Cubase Pro 9.5 | Wavelab Pro 9.5 | Dorico Pro 2| NI Komplete 11 | VSL Special Editions |

Posted on Fri, Sep 21 2018 20:03
by S4410
Joined on Mon, Apr 28 2014, Posts 7

After further investigation and trying things, i can make it work in Cubase through Vienna Ensemble.

I believe it was supposed to work as any VSTi, am i right?

I will further test it this way, but for the time being i am ok with this setting.Thank god i have this option

Posted on Sat, Sep 22 2018 22:31
by Olivin
Joined on Tue, Sep 11 2018, Posts 4

Vienna_Smart_Orchestra_Manual_v1 says "In the ensembles, the bass instruments ... resulting in an effective play range from C1 to C7"

I can't get this.

The range from C4 to B4 is missing for the Woodwinds - Patch 13 WW 0B Long.

The PAD also sound strange from B3 to C4, I hear 1 octave.

I do not own any other VSL library, is it the usual way to program the library or is it a mistake ?

 

"Are these sample libraries of equal or better quality than those of my Special Editions and Epic Orchestra?=> Same quality, different general idea, taking advantage of the new possibilities in the Synchron Player. "

When I use Velocity Xfade, I hear only 2 velocity layers, and the transition is not smooth, is it the usual way to program your library ?

"The “marcato control” feature enables you to play everything from smooth legato lines"

I do not find the way to get the legato when using this patch, how to get it ?

The Solo instrumlents offers the legato, but I do not find the way to play Chords, how can I play Chords with the  solo instruments ?

Posted on Sun, Sep 23 2018 01:29
by cooncat
Joined on Thu, Mar 21 2013, Posts 1

Hello Paul,

Is Smart Orchestra made from new recordings of samples, or is it derived from your existing catalog of instruments?

Thank you,

Rick

Posted on Sun, Sep 23 2018 08:09
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12094

Hi!

@S4410: Please send the crash-dumps to !, the location is shown after the crash. 

And: Yes, we do offer a return policy of 30 days if the software products and libraries were purchased in our webshop. But we will make this work, of course! 

@Olivin:

1) There are 3 presets for this case: one with 2 octaces for the bass instruments, one optione with 1 octave for the bass instrumenst and one without bass instruments. Did you try those yet?

2) This layered concept is not our usual way with any VSL products, but with the very affordable sketching tool, it is the way to go. For more detail at entry level prices, you could check out, e.g., our Special Editions. 

3) There are 2-4 velocity layers available for all instruments, and of course they are optimized, so it's hard to compare the results with our much bigger VI Collections and Synchron Series products under the acoustic microscope. 

4) Not sure where you found the marcato sentence, we actually decided against marcato control for the solo legato instruments. But it can be added. Please contact and we will create such a preset for you. 

5) To get a polyphonic legato, please go to the PERFORM tab and activate the "Poly" Legato Mode in the column to the right. We have deactivated it by default to stay performance-friendlier. 

@cooncat: The samples are derived from our existing calatol of instruments, optimized for the task. A "best of" for live-sketches and quick writing. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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