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Last post Sun, Sep 23 2018 by Delt, 7 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Sep 17 2018 20:06
by timkiel
Joined on Fri, Jun 06 2003, Posts 627

Dear All

Apologies as I have been out of the VSL scene for sometime now but wondered if things had moved on.  I couldn't see a thread on this topic but as we're in the age of Cloud and all things "software" is it possible yet to use VSL with the soft e-licenser from Steinberg?

Or is another cloud based solution in the offing?  Native Instruments I find is excellent in this regard.

Anyway apologies if this has already been answered - but a quick forum search didn't return any results.

 

Kind regards

 

Tim

Intel Mac Pro (2 x 2.66 Xeon Dual Core, 8GB RAM, Nvidia 7300GT), RME Fireface 800, OS 10.6.4, Logic 9.1.1 (64-bit mode)
Posted on Tue, Sep 18 2018 01:31
by mw design
Joined on Thu, Dec 05 2013, Posts 258

Hi Tim,

I think a Cloudservice dont have many Benefits, because what happens when the User cant Access the Cloud or the Cloud is off for some Reason ? I also read some Comments on Social Media that this allready happend on some Cloudservice based Libraries

That cant happen with a Dongle. The Dongle means you can Access the Licenses Anytime, Anywhere without Depency on Online Services, and Online Clouds are more Insecure in Comparison to a Dongle.

Cheers

Posted on Tue, Sep 18 2018 02:17
by mw design
Joined on Thu, Dec 05 2013, Posts 258

After reading those who have been upset with Cloudservices went off on Social Media. I imagined, Someone who make a Contract Work and he cant Access the Licenses he purchased, because the Cloud is off. He get angry twice. He need to break the Contract, which can lead to a Refund depending on the Contract and He cant access the Licenses he purchased. So He paid for Licenses and want to make Contract Work but in the End he has to pay because he break the Contract and no Music was made at all.

Whats true is that a Hardware Dongle can break or get lost, but whats also true is the Licenses are available everytime.

Posted on Tue, Sep 18 2018 17:40
by Gustar
Joined on Wed, Sep 05 2018, Posts 19

There is a large thread about all things copy protection/eLicenser/cloud related here:

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t42581-VSL-LOST-KEY-POLICY?=#post256404

As far as I understand from reading through 5 pages:

1) VSL are aware that quite a few users are unhappy with the current copy protection scheme, especially because of the large cost in case of eLicenser loss/theft

2) There is no alternative solution yet, but something seems to be in the works

3) There is no announcemeant or release date yet

4) For any further discussion I would suggest posting in the above thread to keep all input in one place

Posted on Sun, Sep 23 2018 08:43
by Delt
Joined on Sat, Sep 22 2018, Posts 4

In view of this licenser approach, my related question is: "Does one have to be on line to be able to use VSL?"

Important, as I have to be portable and have only one usable USB slot normally occupied by my hard drive. May seem a naive issue but I have to sort it out, quite enthused by VSL but see the administrative "problems" as a sticking point. Besides, USB sticks can't be relied upon. My DAW and instrumental software (e.g.Pianoteq) don't need them.  

Posted on Sun, Sep 23 2018 09:51
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582

Originally Posted by: Delt Go to Quoted Post

In view of this licenser approach, my related question is: "Does one have to be on line to be able to use VSL?"

No.  VSL uses the elicenser which is a dongle system.  I've come to the conclusion that if you don't have to travel then keep the Vienna key (dongle) at home.  Just do your MIDI programing or notation on the go.  If you loose that key you loose your licenses and you'll have to pay to get them back.

But you will have to be online to register and download your products of course.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Sun, Sep 23 2018 11:59
by Delt
Joined on Sat, Sep 22 2018, Posts 4

Thank you for the clarification.

Cheers

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