Hello Andy

What we are waiting for so long has arrived ; Logic 10.4.2 now can send up to 3 command to change articulation

You need to select Activate Multiple Output (see screen shot)

Are you going to make official articulation files for Logic ?

Best

Cyril

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Just a note: even without multiple outputs, it was already possible to send two messages, by combining a Note and its Velocity.

Paolo

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

Hello Andy What we are waiting for so long has arrived ; Logic 10.4.2 now can send up to 3command to change articulation You need to selectActivate Multiple Output (see screen shot) Are you going to make official articulation files for Logic ? Best Cyril

The interesting thing is that vsl is configurable for what the keyswitches will be and is quite flexible so really it’s up to each person to decide what keyswitches they want to use and set it up. I’m not sure anyone can make an articulation set that would work, everyone can use vipro differently. The good news is articulation sets can now send more then one keyswitch per articulation which better supports xy matrix etc

XYZ matrix (z is needed for Dimension instruments )

VSL did a set of Expression Maps for Cubase, so it will be nice they do the same for Logic

Thanks in advance Andy

+1

Expression Maps for Logic could be very useful starting points (like VSL's matrices and patches).

Please support for Audio Unit 3 (AU3) as soon as possible too!

Claude

Originally Posted by: RLD

VSL did a set of Expression Maps for Cubase, so it will be nice they do the same for Logic

Thanks in advance Andy

Originally Posted by: PaoloT

There is no need for programming the Environment. Just send a Note/Keyswitch, and its Velocity value. In Vienna Instruments/Pro, select KeySwitch for the X-axis, KeySwitch Velocity for the Y-axis.

Note --> KeySwitch
Note Velocity --> KeySwitch Velocity

Paolo

Paolo :

In this case you must modify all the Preset made by VSL

With 10.4.2 you dont need

It's funny how people wanted to post for saying thing that are poluating a thread !

Originally Posted by: PaoloT

Cyril, modifying presets is not forbidden, and is also easy to do in VI. Customization is strongly recommended by the developers themselves.

In any case, I would appreciate if you refrained from finding other member's posts "funny", just because they don't match your view.

Paolo

It is not a good idea to modify preset because if VSL is updating or improving them you are .....

I did not undrestand your intervention on this thread !

Everybody was shouting when in 10.4.1 you could not send two or three commands to change articulation

10.4.2 is the best solution for articulation switching !

All previous solutions where DIY

Salut Claude

I will speak in English so everybody understand (my English is bad too)

I have started make the articulations for  10.4.2 yesterday, it is very easy if you can use prepared tables from other solutions (before I was conveerting program changes to articulation change) where you have all the notes and event under your elbow.

It will be very helpfull to have the Copy/Paste ;)

I have made the strings Violon, Viola and Cello for Solo, Orchestral and Chamber

I use articulation of Matrices levell II  (about 35 articulation per instrument)

I will finish with  the Double Bass before the end of the week

I have attached an image of the exel file I used

You will see that most of the articulation are the same for  Violon, Viola and Cello 

Why dont we split the work ?

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Hi Everyone

I didnt know if you had seen these guys https://www.babylonwaves.com/logic-pro/

There articulation plugin they developed has just been updated to include VSL libraries and after the short time ive had playing with it its excellent and may be just what your looking for

i hope this helps

Kindest 

Pul

Hi Cyril

Currently the selection of available libraries for VSL is small, and as i only have Special Edition 1 and 1Plus I cannot test the other available libraries for you. However, the developer seems to have covered every articulation for the strings in SE1 (admittedly i have only really looked at the Orchestral strings, not the Solo ones)

i think they have started with the smaller libraries, as working on Dimension Strings for example must be a much larger job!

Dont be put of by that though, as ive used this plugin before, and it updates ALOT with new features and considering that Logic Pro has only just updated to 10.4.2 (and you'll need this version installed for the plugin to work with VSL) they have included the Cube, SE1-4 and the brand new Syncron Orchestra already! i emailed there support to ask if they planned to include VSL when Logic updated to 10.4 and they said they would include all there libraries as soon as the software allowed, so its only a matter of time i think before everything is done.

I have no idea how they manage it, as it must be a huge challenge!

As far as Score mark up is concerened (and to me this was a BIG issue) its not great if im honest. Basic articulations are marked up (staccato for example) but not much else. Ive included a screen shot of the score mark up on a test piece, and you'll notice the notes in 'Green' have no articulations marked, but the software playes them as Detache.

Now (for me at least) its not such an issue as i write all my music in Sibelius anyway as the work VSL have done with the sound sets is lovely and everything just works for me as i need it to, but now if i import the midi into Logic its a breeze to select the articulations i need and to tweek the playback to my hearts content!

I think its a perfect compromise really, and one thats only going to get better with time!

Kindest Regards

Paul

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Hi Cyril

I've done a short video showing how it works (with Orchestral SE1 Strings)

The playings not great, so Mozart has nothing to worry about but you'll see how it works mate

if i have more time i'll see how it works in Ensamble (not Ensamble Pro as i dont have it!....yet!)

have a good one mate

Paul

Edit....ive tried to upload the video as a .mov but its not working mate, so i'll try and get it working and upload it ASAP