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Last post Wed, Oct 10 2018 by bbelius, 7 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Oct 09 2018 15:38
by matteocremolini
Joined on Wed, Dec 24 2008, Posts 16

Hi!!

I'm reorganizing my big orchestral template. I would like advice on how to better manage the distribution of kontakt patches and related outputs.

1) Kontakt multi patch (ex: 16 art violins) 1 stereo out for patches? (16 patches - 16 kontakt out). I guess that this approach makes total audio output for VEP instance problematic

2) kontakt multipatch with fewer outputs grouped by genre of articulation.I guess that this approach makes the DAW processing (EQ-COMP...) of each patch is less precise

3) Better thread management in multi-patch kontakt. Each kontakt instance is processed by a thread, so multiple patches are loaded and played simultaneously on the single thread

Considering that each orchestral section has at least 10 patches as suggested scenario?

 

Many thanks!

matteo

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 18:00
by matteocremolini
Joined on Wed, Dec 24 2008, Posts 16

nobody? :))

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 19:14
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 139

I don't work much with Kontakt, but as the manual suggests I left multicore-processing disabled.

I use one instance of Kontakt per instrument to mimick the workflow of VI. There shouldn't be much difference in performance other than each instance needs a little bit additional RAM.

Best, Ben

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 19:34
by matteocremolini
Joined on Wed, Dec 24 2008, Posts 16

do you use one audio output for every section or patch? es: one output for violins (all articulations) or one output for every articulation?

Kontakt multi-patch?

many thanks

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 21:02
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 139

I have set up a large template. I use for each section one VE instance and route every instrument separate back to my DAW and route and mix them there. If I am using MIR (also everything preset) I route dry and wet signals on seperat channels.
I use one instance of Kontakt / VI for each instrument(group) + keyswitches. I set up all keyswitches of the instruments the exact same way; for Kontakt I use the default keyswitches (I rarely use Kontakt at all).

This was initially a lot of work to setup but works good for me. I have full control of everything inside my DAW without the need for complex automation. I mix everything in the DAW's mixer. I also use some VST3 plugins that won't work in VE Pro. And with equal keyswitches for all instruments the programming is fast as youquickly get muscle memory.

To save resourses I disable everything in my template and in Cubase. After loading my template I only activate th VE Pro instances in Cubase + channels in VE Pro I need and remove instances / instruments I do not plan to use.

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Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 21:15
by matteocremolini
Joined on Wed, Dec 24 2008, Posts 16

very interesting. Many thanks!!

Also I use the disable tracks in cubase but I still do not have the VEP 6.(soon)

Thank you very much for sharing your experience and confirming my intentions.

I guess you're using VEP in localhost mode mainly.

ciao

matteo

Posted on Wed, Oct 10 2018 21:37
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 139

Originally Posted by: matteocremolini Go to Quoted Post
I guess you're using VEP in localhost mode mainly.

Yes.

When working with a large template also disable the plugins in cubase (in the rack-window the on/off switch).

Best, Ben

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