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Posted on Fri, Dec 21 2018 02:52
by littlewierdo
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2016, Posts 237

For those that cant decide which piano to purchase, here is a wonderful high quality video, that Stefan at Vienna did awhile back. He plays 3 pieces, on all 3 pianos, so you can make a comparison between the 3 pianos. The difference is very subtle, and you'll need some good headphones / studio monitors to hear the difference, but in general, the Steinway presents a more muted and blended sound, perfect for orchestral works, the Yamaha is slightly brighter, while the Bosendorfer has an emphasis on the bass (the Yamaha and Bosendorfer are great for solo works or when the piano needs to cut through the orchestra, rather than blend with the orchestra).

My hope is that Vienna will re-record the Bosendorfer, in the same manner they recently did the Yamaha and Steinway pianos, because the demos of the Vienna instruments version they currently sell, sounds rather bland, flat, and muted to me.

Also, for the love of God, please put some demos of the Steinway and Yamaha from the player and close position (and include this in the description of the piece) because I love how these pianos sound in this video, but all of the demos seem to include more of the room accoustics than I want. As a pianist, I want to hear these up close and personal, much like how they sound in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2GYYV8JSqM&feature=youtu.be

Posted on Fri, Dec 21 2018 07:36
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12786

Hi littlewierdo, 

Thanks for reposting. 

You can compare all mic positions of the Steinway right here, and there are different microphone settings applied to each demo, so you should have some variety there. 

We are adding more demo and I will see that here are intimate versions available as well. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Dec 21 2018 09:05
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 956

Originally Posted by: littlewierdo Go to Quoted Post

 so you can make a comparison between the 3 pianos. The difference is very subtle, and you'll need some good headphones / studio monitors to hear the difference,

My hope is that Vienna will re-record the Bosendorfer, in the same manner they recently did the Yamaha and Steinway pianos, because the demos of the Vienna instruments version they currently sell, sounds rather bland, flat, and muted to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2GYYV8JSqM&feature=youtu.be

I am quite sure they will ad a Bosendorfer Synchron Piano sooner or later and that give the chance to provide a comnparison not between the original instruments on which the samplesets are based on, but also between the samplesets themselve.

It might be interesting to hear at least someone with a good classical background perhaps like Stefan Mendl to seriously play classical music with the samplesets.. so thats what might be stuff for the next VSL Piano comparison YT-Video.

http://libraries.resampled.de/index.php
four parallel interpretations of ambitious classical scores with up to twelve different Libraries

http://beethoven.resampled.de
currently the first four Symphonies of L.v.Beethoven completly recorded with the finest available orchestra samplelibraries (BBCSO, SSO, STO)

http://klassik-resampled.de
Currently 4330 mp3 with more than a whole Week (=more than 8 Days /=nearly 200 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries
Posted on Fri, Dec 21 2018 12:59
by littlewierdo
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2016, Posts 237

Oh yay! These are much more what I was looking for... really was trying to get a better idea of these...planning on buying both because I am at heart a pianist first, only dabbling in composition, and having heard all the major piano sound samples out there, these are the best, the Hans Zimmer piano is close, but not quite that concert piano sound I am looking for.

Now tell me you are re-recording the Bosendorfer, I know this piano can sound so much better than the one you currently sell and I really want this piano to be available in the same quality as the Yamaha and Steinway...

Also, just curious, did you use this robot thingy for the Yamaha piano? I was fascinated by this little robot (I wish there were more videos on it and more specifically, the engineering and how you actually recorded all the various aspects of a piano like body resonance and so forth).

Also, does this little robot have a name? Im proposing pbot...

Posted on Fri, Dec 21 2018 13:12
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12786

Hi littlewierdo, 

We do have this beautiful Bösendorfer available in @Synchron Stage Vienna, so let's see what happens next.
The Yamaha was recorded with the built-in reproduction system. 

Maybe there will be more infos on the robot soon... I think everyone here has a different nickname for it 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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