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  • Epic Horns & Fanfare Trumpets?

    I already have Special Edition 1 Plus and Special Edition 2 Plus. Both have horns and trumpets. What would Epic Horns and Fanfare Trumpets add to my collection?

    Can't you program the examples (Star Wars main title) with my products anyway as there is staccato etc.?

    Also, what is the difference between standard and full edition? The articulations are listed on the product page but what can and can't I program with the standard edition?


  • The Standard Library of the Single Instrument Epic Horns, for instance, contains more articulations than the Epic Horns that are included with the Special Edition Vol. 2 and Vol. 2 PLUS, such as blared sustains, pfp, flutter tonguing, trills and additional repetitions. The Full Library contains even more articulations, as listed here:
    https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Brass_II/Epic_Horns#!Sample_Content

    Of course you can create anything with the basic artulations, but the more articulations you have at your disposal, the more choice you have to create more realistic, varied and colorful music. It's totally up to you which of these articulations you'd like to use, there is no general advice what you can and what you can't program with more or less options.

    Cheers, Martin


  • Thanks you! And what's the difference between Vol. 2 Keyboards (Cembalo) and the standalone harpsichord? A cembalo is a harpsichord.


  • Exactly, there is no difference, it's the same sampled instrument. It just says Cembalo in the VI patch list. The Single Instrument Harpsichord has more registers than the one included with the Special Edition Vol. 2.


  • There is also one other thing that hasnt been mentioned. The Special Edition libaries and standard libraries pitch shift to fill in the gaps, while the full libraries have every note with every articulation sampled.

    For example, with the special edition, you get every third note (C, Eb, Gb, & A) as pure samples. Any notes in between those 4 notes are pitch shifted up or down. Playing a B will pitch shift the C down to a B. Playing a Db will pitch shift a C up. Playing a D will pitch shift an Eb down, and so on.

    The standard libraries I believe give you every other note (C,D,E,Gb,Ab,Bb) and only pitch shift up any notes played between those six notes.

    The full libraries are completely samples, every note, no pitch shifting is done.

    The full libraries, because they dont pitch shift, supposedly provide a more pure and natural sound. Apparently, as a side note, the standard libraries sound better because pitch shifting up apparently gives better results than pitch shifting down. Personally, having messed with a friends full library verses my special edition complete library, other than the missing articulations, it sounds the same (ie. a sustain trumpet special edition sounds the same as a sustain trumpet full library to my ears).


  • Hi, 

    Special Editions are mapped in whole tones, so 2 notes share the same sample. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Martin said:

    Of course you can create anything with the basic artulations, but the more articulations you have at your disposal, the more choice you have to create more realistic, varied and colorful music. It's totally up to you which of these articulations you'd like to use, there is no general advice what you can and what you can't program with more or less options.

    If you can't afford the bigger libraries than I would suggest purchasing the Vienna Pro player because then you could at least "manufacture" your own articulations to mimic some of the ones you don't have like using the humanization and time stretch functions.


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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    Special Editions are mapped in whole tones, so 2 notes share the same sample. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Ah, right, thanks Paul 😊