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Last post Tue, Feb 18 2020 by PaoloT, 7 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Mar 15 2019 13:03
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 559

Hi,

If an instrument is sorely missing from the market, it is a sampled fortepiano. Strongly needed for accurate rendition of Mozart's music, we can only use the humble and dated Bolder Sound's, or the oddly sounding models included in Pianoteq.

It would be a great completion to the Keyboard VI collection an instruments sampled as VSL usually does. Hoping it will be part of the VI series, not the Synchron.

Paolo

Posted on Fri, Mar 15 2019 19:46
by edu
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2007, Posts 17
+1
Posted on Mon, Apr 01 2019 03:02
by 10bd01
Joined on Fri, Feb 24 2017, Posts 5

+10

Posted on Mon, Feb 03 2020 21:15
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 559

I've been recently working with a beautiful fortepiano from another developer. It is a period object, made just a couple years after Mozart's death by the same manufacturer who made Mozart's preferred piano (Stein).

As beautiful as it is, it is a particular instrument. It's old, and even if perfectly maintained, it sounds as an old insturment, with all its imperfections.

I think VSL's catalogue could fit better a modern replica, as happened with the majestic harpsichord. A perfect instrument, sounding as when the period instruments were new.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, Feb 15 2020 20:19
by pianoguy
Joined on Thu, Feb 28 2008, Colorado Springs, Colorado, Posts 57

+1. There is one other option - Realsamples' Early Piano, which is a 1793 Stein. It was a state of the art sample library when it appeared a dozen or so years ago, and it still sounds very good, except that it is cumbersome to use (it's a Kontakt library, and I've never found an obviously easy way to load it), and perhaps most importantly, there is no change in timbre with the dampers off.

It's not the only enormous gap in the piano collection, though. It would be great to have a good 1830s Erard, or any of a large number of later wooden-framed or even early steel-framed instruments.

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Posted on Sat, Feb 15 2020 22:06
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 559

Originally Posted by: pianoguy Go to Quoted Post

There is one other option - Realsamples' Early Piano, which is a 1793 Stein.

I didn't want to say the name of the other manufacturer, but here it is :)

https://soundcloud.com/ptram69/mozart-concerto-per-pianoforte-k488-adagio-fortepiano

Paolo

Posted on Tue, Feb 18 2020 18:24
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 559

Originally Posted by: pianoguy Go to Quoted Post

It's not the only enormous gap in the piano collection, though. It would be great to have a good 1830s Erard, or any of a large number of later wooden-framed or even early steel-framed instruments.

Again, some excellent pianos in that style are in the Realsamples Beurmann collection. They have a Traugott Berndt from 1848, that should be still similar to pianos from the 1830s, and a more recent Erard from 1873. This latter should be very different from VSL's Blüthner 1895, looking like a straight-stringed instrument instead of cross-stringed.

Should VSL continue with restored originals, like with the Blüthner, or go for replicas? As much as fascinating the real things are, I think the Realsample collection has them covered. I would much prefer modern replicas, that can immediately be used in production.

Theatres do the same: keeping older instrument in tune is not easy, and maintaining them is working on a precious museum piece. They usually go for excellent replicas.

Paolo

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