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Last post Sun, Jun 23 2019 by DaddyO, 30 replies.
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Posted on Mon, May 20 2019 14:24
by V_ad_im
Joined on Fri, Feb 25 2011, Posts 116

VSL team, please, make a range of humanizing parameters in SY player same as (not smaller then) in VIPro

Also feature requests for SY player:
Indication of impulse Bypass mode for impulse button on the mixer
Master Impulse bypass button in mixer

Posted on Wed, Jun 05 2019 18:57
by Mathematics
Joined on Fri, Apr 24 2015, United States, Posts 43
Synchron upgrade to Bundle owners should rather be an addition to, rather than a replacement. I'm not happy with the way things have been going shove VEP 7. I used to upgrade my products from VSL until this last version of 7, which replaces the 3 licenses of VEP 6 with one for VEP 7. No thank you. Unless my understanding is wrong, I'm beginning to fall out of love for VSL.
Posted on Thu, Jun 06 2019 15:45
by DaddyO
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, San Antonio, TX, Posts 319

Originally Posted by: Mathematics Go to Quoted Post
Synchron upgrade to Bundle owners should rather be an addition to, rather than a replacement.

I believe you misunderstand things. Paul can confirm, but I think he's specifically said that the Synchron series upgrades do NOT replace your VI series, they are additional products. You can run either one.

VSL Std Edition Core WW, Brass, Percussion
VSL Spec Editions Complete
VE Pro, VI Pro, MIR Pro
Windows 10
Cubase, Dorico
Posted on Thu, Jun 06 2019 17:20
by Mathematics
Joined on Fri, Apr 24 2015, United States, Posts 43
So you're not sure either. Can you find where exactly that is stated? Unless I misread that, it isn't explicitly clear.
Posted on Thu, Jun 06 2019 17:27
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11151

Hi,

The VI Special Editions and SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions are independent products, each with their own license and sample content, with additional sample content for all 4 volumes and with more than attractive upgrade/crossgrade prices. 

So you can keep your original VI Series files around (also to open older projects) and work with your SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions from now on OR additionally. Simply as you like :)

Best, 
Paul 

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Jun 06 2019 17:40
by Mathematics
Joined on Fri, Apr 24 2015, United States, Posts 43
Ah. Perfect. Thank you.
Posted on Sat, Jun 08 2019 11:26
by Pixelpoet1985
Joined on Fri, Dec 23 2016, Germany, Posts 181

Hello VSL,

I want to come back to my second post in this thread, concerning some of the features in the Synchron Player.

Is it possible to have the stretch feature and interval map?

These are the only reasons why I'm NOT USING and UPGRADING to the SY-libraries (Dimension Brass & Strings). Especially interval map is the essential controller of my matrices/presets when it comes to playability.

You would really make me happy if these will be integrated in the future. 

Posted on Sat, Jun 08 2019 15:38
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 467

Thumbs UP! (VSL promise to listen to their users.)
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Posted on Mon, Jun 10 2019 01:29
by littlewierdo
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2016, Posts 178

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post

 

Sorry that I'll take this thread OT for a moment ...

Originally Posted by: littlewierdo Go to Quoted Post
[...] Honestly, its high time that the MIR Pro engine should be free anyway, especially considering you cant do anything with the engine itself. Yes, MIR Pro would have to be upgraded to support more than two microphone positions, however, I consider that a huge bonus, one that MIR Pro desperately needs. Compared to other convolution reverbs on the market, the lack of more than 2 microphone positions leaves MIR Pro a bit behind. This isnt to say MIR Pro isnt amazing, but it certainly needs an upgrade in number of mic placement positions.

Great to hear that you like MIR Pro! I know that there is always room for improvement, but let's get a few things straight:

- MIR as a whole "thinks" Ambisonics, thus you can de-code up to eight individual microphone capsules of both microphone positions. Most Venues offer four (at least three) Main Mic positions you can choose from, some of them oriented in more than one main axis.

- After all these years there is still not a single competitor's product on the market which is able to deal with literally thousands of individual impulse responses from a real stage or studio, allowing for free source-placement and rotation (of both the source and the microphones!) - let alone in (close to) real-time.

- Plus, there is no comparable (IR-based) product which is able to take into account the directivity of the recorded sources, much less the actually measured frequency profiles of real instruments.

... I would _love_ to make MIR a free product, but looking at the 15+ years of development which were necessary to realize the features mentioned above (and all the other ones, too), I would say that it's highly unlikely this will happen any time soon.

Kind regards,

I want to be clear, I was referring to the engine, not the roompacks. I understand charging for roompacks. In other words, when you buy a roompack, I think you should get the engine, even if the engine is the limited 24 channel version and have to pay to upgrade for more than 24 channels (similar to how Instruments and Instruments Pro work - if I buy a soundfont, I get a feature rich engine free (ie. Vienna Instruments), then I can pay to unlock a few additional features ie. Vienna Instruments Pro).

At no point did I say MIR wasnt amazing. It absolutely is, probably one of the best convo reverbs out there. Its very flexible and customizable, it just makes no sense to charge for an engine that you can do nothing with.

I also am unsure how effective MIR is with anything non-vienna, or let alone the Synchron libraries for that matter, I havent had a chance to do much with it since I have been trying to pass Calculus, Physics, and Chemistry classes this past Fall and Spring semesters. Rest assured, Ill mess with it some more over the summer.

Posted on Sun, Jun 23 2019 13:46
by DaddyO
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, San Antonio, TX, Posts 319

A few days ago I ordered the Synchronized Special Edition bundle upgrade from the VI SE bundle. It was such a good price ($160 US) I couldn't pass it up.

I must say that after some initial play-around with the Synchron Player I have begun to appreciate it's capabilities and usefulness.

VSL Std Edition Core WW, Brass, Percussion
VSL Spec Editions Complete
VE Pro, VI Pro, MIR Pro
Windows 10
Cubase, Dorico
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