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Last post Sat, Apr 27 2019 by bbelius, 10 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Apr 26 2019 08:45
by jaxtone
Joined on Fri, Jan 12 2018, Posts 4

Since way back in the 90´s I have ever experienced so much question marks when installing a software!

I bought a Tuba a while ago and it just popped up and worked without problems and I would prefer that even my latest purchase worked just as easy though I am more interested in music than technical issues when trying to install a product. The Vienna Pro 6 and its sound content library must be something extra ordinary and fantastic when so many fixing points have to be fixed before one can even can hear a sound.

I still don´t get the server thing, is it connected to Vienna Strings on line or what server do you mean. Does it have to be open or closed when working in Cubase and using Vienna? What happend if I wan´t to work offline, will the server issue stop me from doing this?

But the most important question is what´s really included in Vienna Pro 6, since I feel like there´s a lot of missing instruments when open the Epic Library! 

 

Posted on Fri, Apr 26 2019 11:07
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 619

Hi,

I think you've got a wrong idea about what Vienna Ensemble Pro is .

It is mainly a VSTi host to move your VSTi's out of your DAW / notation program and put it in an separate process on the same machine or even another machine on the network.

You'll get the Epic Orchestra as free addon, which is a very cut down version of some of the full instruments / collections.

VEP does not need an active internet connection to work.

To get a better idea of VEP watch some videos on the product page or youtube (example: https://www.youtube.com/...VthzeM    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GcdqwP8i7U)

Best, Ben

Ben
Technical Support - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Apr 26 2019 13:55
by jaxtone
Joined on Fri, Jan 12 2018, Posts 4

Thanks!

I got it and understand that I´ve been a moron because what I really was looking for was a larger sound library that could fulfill my ambition to make my arrangements sound more and better. 

I don´t know how I possibly could miss that Vienna Ensemble Pro 6 was just a VST host which I already have a few of. IBut maybe I am too much of  a rookie at this point to see the advantages of Vienna as a VST host. 

Am I right if I assume that the Vienna VST host would have been totally quiet if Epic Orchestra wouldn´t have been added as a free addon? 

I read that by adding too many single instruments or packages Vienna VST host will run slow. How in Gods name should one be able too invest in more instruments if so? 

By your answer I also understand it as I must ignore the window that pops up and craves a server address each time I start my Vienna Pro 6 in Cubase?



Originally Posted by: bbelius Go to Quoted Post

Hi,

I think you've got a wrong idea about what Vienna Ensemble Pro is .

It is mainly a VSTi host to move your VSTi's out of your DAW / notation program and put it in an separate process on the same machine or even another machine on the network.

You'll get the Epic Orchestra as free addon, which is a very cut down version of some of the full instruments / collections.

VEP does not need an active internet connection to work.

To get a better idea of VEP watch some videos on the product page or youtube (example: https://www.youtube.com/...VthzeM    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GcdqwP8i7U)

Best, Ben

Posted on Fri, Apr 26 2019 15:01
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 619

If you are looking for more instruments, have a look at the Starter Editions (https://www.vsl.co.at/de/Product_Overview/Starter_Editions ). A great starting point.

There is no VST host like VEP I know of.
VEP is not a instrument player, but a host for all your plugin instrument (and fx).
There is a standalone version, but the main usage is in combination with a DAW.
In short: You just start your DAW and VEP, insert the VEP plugin in your DAW and connect the plugin to the VEP instance. The information will be saved with your project and VEP will automaticly connect to the instance when you load it.

I never experienced that VEP got slower just because I own more instruments. Of course, there is a limit how many instruments your computer can handle at once, but with a modern system you can run an insane number of instruments at once. VEP handles the instruments better then most or even all DAWs.

Ben
Technical Support - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 08:03
by jaxtone
Joined on Fri, Jan 12 2018, Posts 4

Thanks for the information Ben!

I will for sure look it up and take a closer look into it. 

At the moment I am looking for a good tenor sax or a small jazz combo setup with brass which was easy to find and I must say that what I heard sounds excellent.

But please take a look at the left lower side of the product page for a single saxophone. There are two choices, "Standard Library" or "Full Library" but I cannot find about what´s the difference between these two options.

When I take a look into the "Saxophones" the same thing appears. No information about what´s the specific difference between "Standard" or "Full" library.

Is this a bug or am I supposed to know? Hope not because I am just a rookie at the moment : )

Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 08:11
by Lucy
Joined on Sun, Nov 26 2017, Posts 30

Note the "Sample Content" tabs on the product page:

https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Additional_Winds_Bundle/Saxophones#!Sample_Content

Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 08:13
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11755

Hi jaxtone, 

You can find a list of the contained articulations under "Sample Content" on each product page (in the menu bar under the product shot).

This is the link for the Saxophones collection. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 09:06
by jaxtone
Joined on Fri, Jan 12 2018, Posts 4

Lucy and Paul!

Thanks, I got it but wonder why VSL have two different names for the same subject? It´s hard for me as a customer rookie to know if there possibly could contain even a third choice when two different names means the same thing!

For me it lead to a misunderstandings since it´s announced as "Full version" in the lower left corner of the webpage and "Extended Version" when you click in to the "Sample Content" page. 

I guess these are the two different words you mean have the same purpose?

Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 09:46
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1550

Standard version and Extended are counted as two seperate libraries although you can't buy the extended library by itself. 

When you purchase them together as opposed to buying just the standard library you're getting the "Full Version."

Basically it's a marketing technique; if you can't afford the full version you could just buy the standard library because it's usually half the full price.  But, in the end, you're going to wish you had purchased the full version.

And if none of that isn't confusing enough here's more, when buy and download the standard version you're actually downloading the full version on your hard drive but you can only access the standard version samples.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
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Posted on Sat, Apr 27 2019 19:38
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 619

Originally Posted by: jaxtone Go to Quoted Post
At the moment I am looking for a good tenor sax or a small jazz combo setup with brass which was easy to find and I must say that what I heard sounds excellent.

https://www.vsl.co.at/de/Special_Edition_Complete_Bundle/Special_Edition_Vol2

The SE Vol 2 has an Alto, a Tenor and a Bariton Sax as well as many other instruments (Trumpet, Clarinet,...).
You get a small discount if you decide to upgrade to the Sax Collection later, but more important you'll get a great collection for a small price.

You can even buy only the woodwind section of the Volume (and keep in mind that there is a Plus package with additional articulations for the Vol 2.

Ben
Technical Support - Vienna Symphonic Library
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