Hello Talino, 

Originally Posted by: Talino

However I'd like to know:

- What prompted this change?

- Is it possible to open saved VEP 7 setups in VEP 6?

- More and more users are working on a one-computer setup, and many of our existing users wanted additional licenses available separately. 

- It is not possible to open VE Pro 7 projects in VE Pro 6 (only the other way around). 

Best,
Paul

Hello Talino,

Originally Posted by: Talino

I am using two macines, one running cubase and one running VEP (cf. signature). I installed VEP 7 on my server machine but on launching Cubase on the local machine the plugin says "incorrect version" when trying to connect. Does this mean that I have to pay another 45€ for a proper upgrade (bringing the total to 120€)?

That's correct. 

Originally Posted by: Talino

Upgrading from 4 to 5 was 40€.

Upgrading from 5 to 6 was 80€.

And this was for three licenses.

Unless I'm wrong, in order to get the equivalent upgrade to 7, using the "Early Bird" offer, a customer would need to pay 165€ (75 + 45 + 45).

How is any of this even remotely fair is beyond me.

I will not start a discussion about the term "fair", but a lot of effort is going into maintenance and development of our most complex software product, and we are offering upgrades every few years (VE Pro 4: 2008, VE PRO 5: 2011, VE PRO 6: 2016, VE Pro 7: 2019). 

Adaptations to new OSs, new versions of all hosts and new plug-in formats require a lot of attention, and we are doing our best to meet our goals in terms of stability and reliability. 

Best, 
Paul

Originally Posted by: WALTER DELLINGER

While we're on license;

I just downloaded and installed to two PC's, just like I've been running VEP 6. & opens fine on the DAW PC. When I try to open the server on the slave, it says no license found. Not sure what I'm missing. Any thoughts please. Thanks

Did you install the latest eLicenser Control Center on the slave, and download a VEP7 license to the key?

Hi Walter, 

The VE Pro 7 license is displayed as VE PRo 7 license. 

You have downloaded your license on the 3rd of April. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Walter, 

You need a second license for VE Pro 7.

Best, 
Paul

Hi Walter, 

Yes, you can uninstall VE PRO 7 and roll back to VE Pro 6. 

I know more complicated things than getting a second license...

Best, 
Paul

That is still the case.
If you run the VEP Host only on one computer you will only need one license.

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

If you're only using one VEP server (on a slave machine)..and not running the actual VEP server on your DAW machine, then just move the VEP7 license to the dongle that is on your slave machine.  You should be good to go.

That is incorrect. Please read Paul's confirmations above. This was the subject of my original post. Even if you only need one server computer, you still need a second license on the computer running your sequencer in order to be able to connect to that server. You can't connect to a VEP 7 server with a computer running a VEP 6 license.

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

No.  You only need a license where the servers are running.

Well I guess I'll wait for Paul to clarify this. I don't see how I could have misunderstood his clear reply to a clear question asked at the top of this thread:

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hello Talino,

Originally Posted by: Talino

I am using two macines, one running cubase and one running VEP (cf. signature). I installed VEP 7 on my server machine but on launching Cubase on the local machine the plugin says "incorrect version" when trying to connect. Does this mean that I have to pay another 45€ for a proper upgrade (bringing the total to 120€)?

That's correct.

It was this reply that made me shell out for an additional license. I don't think Paul would have said I needed a second license for my master Cubase machine if it wasn't the case.

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi,

You only need a license of VE Pro on every computer you are running a Vienna Ensemble Pro Server on. 

Sorry for the confusion. Simply try it. 

Best,
Paul

Excuse me Paul, but this is not what you wrote above. Please re-read my question. I specifically asked how many licenses I needed in order to run a VEP 7 server on a remote computer and accessing it through Cubase on a master computer. I wrote that I couldn't access the remote VEP server with my current VEP 6 software on my Cubase machine, and you replied that I needed a second VEP license in order to do that.

When I replied that it wasn't fair, you explained that the new licensing policy is justified by the effort you guys put into R&D and updates. Fine, I thought. I didn't like what I had perceived as misleading marketing, but being a VSL user for years and a pretty solid advocate of your software I thought it was inevitable and purchased a second license.

If this wasn't necessary, please let me know how I should access the remote server through the master computer without a VEP 7 license (am I supposed to just install VEP 7 in order to use the plugin, with no license?).

Also, if the above is correct, I would be grateful if you could cancel my 2nd license and arrange for a refund. I have the serial numbers if you need them but I suppose you have access to my profile.