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Bosendorfer download beginner Need Help.....
Last post Sun, Jul 28 2019 by civilization 3, 7 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jul 19 2019 15:15
by landofpar
Joined on Wed, Mar 06 2019, USA, Posts 2

HI,

I purchased a new laptop, ( not a MAC)  But a good one, then an entry level audio interface, using a keyboard for controller. All installed with Licenses and drivers. I even managed to play sounds off the keyboard thru my laptop.dd and out of my basic speakers.  But, the sounds I'm making are like listening to a honky tonk piano.

In fact, when I dissenage all the vsl interfaces and computer and go back to my Casio 560 GRand Piano Voicing that is provided by Casio, in the keyboard, my own keyboard sounds fabulous in comparison. . And that's wasn't what I was looking for.

Also the out put of the speakers is less than half when pushed thru the lapatop out the interface.  As compared to how it sounds when the Casio is pushing the sound out. And the speakers are 200W.

Any suggestions on upgrading the interface to improve the sound reproduction? or do I need to erase the vsl and start over again.  Even listening thru the headphones the sound was thin and boring.

My hopes were high that I would have a round full Bosendorfer Grand swelling thru my studio..  But, that is not what is happening... A clear swing and a miss.

thanks for any help you could provide to get this program to sound like it should .

Keene

Rhea Keene
Posted on Sat, Jul 20 2019 13:29
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 606
I started feeling that the sound of the sampled piano was good when I updated to a very good audio interface. When I had one that was only quite good, the piano didn't sound real and powerful enough.

As someone who designs digital pianos for a job, I can testify that reproducing the sound and feeling of a piano is incredibly difficult. With a digital piano everything is optimized for that task. With a generic audio interface and speakers, you can only hope that they cover that particular area well.

Paolo
Posted on Sat, Jul 20 2019 14:50
by landofpar
Joined on Wed, Mar 06 2019, USA, Posts 2

what would be considered an entry level interface for reproducing what the creators had in mind.

thx for your response.

Keene

Rhea Keene
Posted on Sun, Jul 21 2019 09:28
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 606
Not specific names. But check for high dynamic rates on the output: this is usually a good sign of the needed ability to deal with a piano's huge dynamic range.

As a general rule, I guess that manufacturers of high-end audio interfaces can also make excellent entry-level devices.

Paolo
Posted on Thu, Jul 25 2019 08:22
by Louis Colan
Joined on Fri, Sep 22 2017, Posts 22

You don't list your interface or speakers so I'm guessing it;s something like a Focusrite Clarett and a pair of Behringer Truth's. .....lol.

It doesn't matter - there are very few poor bits of kit out there.

I would start with the patches your playing. I don't own the VSL Piano's but getting the right Performance patch loaded is fairly key. If it was me I would record your best sounding Casio Piano sound as Audio into your DAW giving you a quick A/B between your live playing of your VSL and your recorded Casio - now use a pair of headphones so that you can clearly hear the Reverb/Room acoustics embedded in the Casio sound. Now start listening to the VSL and make note of playback volume - dynamic range - room sound.

You're basically engineering two Piano sounds - 

Posted on Sun, Jul 28 2019 18:38
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1631

Pretty much impossible to diagnose directly from the info provided.

 

It could be as simple as your CC11 expression is way down and there's not enough energy to whereever its output is. It could be you are using the system's sound and it's garbage (you didn't say whether or  not all computer is like that; if it isn't, it narrows it down to this extent).

 

Chances are *not* high that it's the converters of a legit audio interface through itself.

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Sun, Jul 28 2019 18:39
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1631

But, the problem is on your end, the instrument itself is quite reputable.

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
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