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Last post Sat, Sep 14 2019 by Paul, 24 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2019 09:59
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11382

Great news for everybody with a soft spot for incredible pianos! 

The Synchron Blüthner 1895 Aliquot Grand Piano is a very useful addition to our high-class Synchron Pianos. 

It is now available separately and of course, if you already have our Synchron Yamaha CFX and Synchron Concert D-274, you should go for the SYNCHRON PIANOS BUNDLE PRICE and benefit from additional discounts (up to 30 %!!) to the introductory price!

And if you "only" have one of those pianos => It's not a hard decision to upgrade with those bundle benefits!

Check out the great demos of all 3 pianos and let us know what you think!

Best., 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2019 12:44
by Pixelpoet1985
Joined on Fri, Dec 23 2016, Germany, Posts 207

Great news!

What's the reason why you chose Stage B for this piano?

Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2019 12:51
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 483

 

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Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2019 13:51
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Hall One, Posts 953

Presumably they reduce the Pianobundle more than the Synchron Package, since the Pianobundle is in itself something new which  get insofar perhaps itsa own introductory reduction.

But if you already own the Synchron-Package, I assume and hope that finaly it wont make any difference if you buy the Blüther as Part of the Pianobunlde or as part of the SAynchron package.

Since you will have registered all Synchron products than in any way so if the Synchron-Package-reduction will be (as it normaly should be) more than thos of a smaller Sub-Bundle you should never the less be eligable for tha Synchron-Package-Reduictions since you simply have registered all its parts. Everything else would really make no sense at all and would be for them self a mess to administrate.

Hoiwever I consent, that it looks pretty strange, that the Super-Package-Reductions are less compared to those of the Pianobundle.

http://klassik-resampled.de ... 3648 mp3 with a whole Week (=7 Days /=171 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries

http://synchron.12sf.de
a) ...Synchron-Strings explored in 40 mp3 with more than four hours of complete and ambitious scores from 19th, 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Strings.

b) ...Synchron-Steinway explored in 48 mp3 with nearly three hours of complete and ambitious scores from 18th 19th 20th and 21th century produced with Synchron-Steinway.
Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2019 16:42
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11382

Hi, 

Stage B was simply more appropriate for the Blüthner.

It is a smaller grand piano than the other 2 flagship pianos and the acoustics of Stage B are ideal. 

LAJ: OUr forum language is english, but you can always contact us with any ideas in german (as you know): .

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2019 02:26
by Pbest
Joined on Tue, Apr 03 2018, Posts 17

Hi, Paul.

Can you upload the videos on the product intro page to YouTube?

I don't know if it's just me, but there's a lot of buffering when I play.

Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2019 16:51
by Roberto D.
Joined on Thu, Dec 02 2004, Posts 157

Since I already own the Yamaha I was offered by VSL the opportunity to buy the Bluthner at the super-low price of 116 euros.

I'm not interested in buying the whole bundle, I would love to just purchase the Bluthner at 116 euros. But if I put the bundle into the basket, I get a grand total of 288 euros (the Blüthner itself will be priced 165 euros instead of 116)

What am I missing?

:-|

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Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2019 16:53
by T.K.
Joined on Sat, Oct 16 2010, Posts 12

The sound of Blüthner is very good. liked it.

I tried using it, but when using it other than "VIENNA ENSEMBLE PRO", loud click noise was output at regular intervals. Noise is not output except at Blüthner. Is this a problem with Synchron Pianos (1.1.1378)?

Also, when I played the same song data, I felt that the output level was very low compared to Yamaha CFX. Is this a matter of personal preference?


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Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2019 16:59
by Roberto D.
Joined on Thu, Dec 02 2004, Posts 157

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post
if you already have our Synchron Yamaha CFX and Synchron Concert D-274, you should go for the SYNCHRON PIANOS BUNDLE PRICE and benefit from additional discounts (up to 30 %!!) to the introductory price!

Paul,

your mail states and/or Yamaha CFX/Concert D-274...

Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2019 18:18
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11382

Hi Roberto, 

With this new bundle, you will always save when you complete the bundle, no matter which Synchron Pianos you already have. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 02:43
by Pbest
Joined on Tue, Apr 03 2018, Posts 17

I asked you a similar question yesterday, but do you have plan to upload the videos other than a video you are currently uploading on YouTube?

Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 07:00
by David B.
Joined on Tue, May 15 2018, Posts 42

I played it all day today and I like it. The mid/upper register is really clear and beautiful. That extra string for resonance makes a difference. I think the bass is really where the vintage sound of the piano is most present. It seems a little weak because I'm used to the massive sound of the VSL CFX and Steinway, but overall I'm very happy with the Bluthner. It's a beautiful period piano and I'm glad they chose the smaller studio to record it in. The smaller studio and piano provides a nice contrast to the bigger CFX/D concert grands. It's nice to sit down and have a variety of beautiful VSL pianos to choose from.

Thanks to the VSL team for making this available and for offering such a nice discount for those who own the other models. That's good marketing and it helps the consumer to feel even better about the experience. My 1TB SSD is almost full now with VSL pianos. I don't know what I'll do if they release another model. 

God Bless,

David                                                                                                                                                                     

Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 07:35
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11382

Hi, 

Thanks for the report, David!

Really happy to hear that you like our choice of piano and room, and it's great to see that our new Piano Bundle is received so well! Sooner or later, you will need a new SSD drive (good thing that those are really affordable right now!)

@Pbest: Yes, we will be uploading those videos to Youtube as well. Meanwhile, you can of course also download them from our website, if you want to go into detail. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 09:50
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 475
Originally Posted by: David B. Go to Quoted Post
I think the bass is really where the vintage sound of the piano is most present. It seems a little weak because I'm used to the massive sound of the VSL CFX and Steinway, but overall I'm very happy with the Bluthner.


David, do you find close chords played in the middle-lower range sound clearer, less muddy than in more modern pianos?

Paolo

Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 11:24
by SORROW27
Joined on Fri, Aug 24 2012, Posts 4

Paul, yesterday my piano teacher listened to Guy Bacos videos demonstrating the Bluethner and she loved the resonances, so I bought it!!!. Is it possible to modify scale tunning in synchron pianos?, for example, Kirnberger or Werckmeister for Bach works.

thanks to the entire VSL team for the work!!


 
 
Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 12:36
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11382

Hi Sorrow27, 

Thanks for sharing the story! It is a remarkable piano indeed!

No automatic scales in there yet, but you could go in and edit the tuning in the EDIT window. 

Hope we can implement a more comfortable solution in the future (not a priority right now)...

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 14:19
by David B.
Joined on Tue, May 15 2018, Posts 42

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David B. Go to Quoted Post
I think the bass is really where the vintage sound of the piano is most present. It seems a little weak because I'm used to the massive sound of the VSL CFX and Steinway, but overall I'm very happy with the Bluthner.
David, do you find close chords played in the middle-lower range sound clearer, less muddy than in more modern pianos? Paolo

Hi,

There is an additional clarity in the lower resonance (to my ears), but it lacks the deep, rumbling, resonant power of the larger modern concert CFX/D models. I think Mozart and Bach would sound great on it. 

The Bluthner is very smooth and easy on the ears. I even noticed less brain/ear fatigue after playing for an extended period yesterday. 

God Bless,

David

Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2019 14:38
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 475
Originally Posted by: David B. Go to Quoted Post
There is an additiona lclarity in the lower resonance (to my ears), but it lacks the deep, rumbling, resonant power of the larger modern concert CFX/D models.


Thank you for your answer. Yes, there has been a trade-off, during the first half of the 20th century, between clarity and power in the lower range. I'm happy this translates well in this sample library.

19th-century literature should play better, with clearer inner polyphony and better sounding of left-hand chords (just think to Beethoven, Liszt and Brahms massive chords).

Paolo
Posted on Thu, Aug 08 2019 17:24
by Seventh Sam
Joined on Sat, Dec 29 2018, Posts 120

So here I was agonizing over which piano to buy, and then this bundle comes out.  Obvious choice, there.  The Bluthner sounds spot-on for that "Chopin-esque" feel.  Many thanks!

- Sam  

Posted on Tue, Aug 13 2019 09:25
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 475

I've tried an adaptaton of Scriabin's Etude in C# minor on this piano, that could have been the one on which the piece has been created:

Scriabin Etude C# minor (Blüthner)

This is the Standard edition. I might need some other close mics. And some more extreme dynamic change, since the piano is very much responsive to touch.

Paolo

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