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Last post Sat, Aug 17 2019 by civilization 3, 8 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Aug 14 2019 22:14
by jshamon
Joined on Mon, Jan 22 2018, Posts 14

Hi All,

I'm still learning, is everybody uses cubase editor - pencil to draw shapes for any song notes ex.:(CC11, CC3, CC14, etc),?

I just think even if i spend so much time to perfect drawing the shape i want  If you ask me to do it again, i guess it won't be the same.

In other words, how would i make sure i can make the same effects drawing shapes using the pencil and expect same results?

I have tried to use other tools (square, sin, triangle) but they don't serve well as I need to have a random shape.

Is there a way to do this more accurately or consistantly? or at least whatever i do, i can repeat it and expext same exact results?

or is it all close enough, around 80% (i'm just throwing any % here) close to the desired shape and eventually to the desired output sound for that patch?

Thanks

-John

Posted on Wed, Aug 14 2019 22:42
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Edmonton, Posts 260

Hi jshamon,

Maybe copy and paste !

PS: Oh, ok , I haven't got the idea from the begining, now I have understood what you wanted. Breath controller is a solution for sure!

Posted on Wed, Aug 14 2019 22:42
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 498

Hi John,

I just trust my ears on this one. If it sounds right it is right. Also with a little bit of experience you can predict the resulting sound.

I use a combination of draing the line by hand, using line but most importent the breath controller. This gives you so much more control over the sound. If needed I manipulate these curves with the mouse after I recorded them with the breath controller. Imo it is a must-have ;)

Best, Ben

Ben | Cubase 9.5 Pro | Win 10 1903 | i5 8600k @4.4 GHz, 32GB DDR4
Posted on Thu, Aug 15 2019 20:06
by jshamon
Joined on Mon, Jan 22 2018, Posts 14

Thanks Ben, Bogdan for your replies,

I have heard of the breath controller but never put a thought into it,

now i'm checking sweetwater, they have this one

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/hb1MIDI--hornberg-research-hb1-midi-breath-station

$840

Are there different types of them? like one is smooth and one is not? or any basic device should just do the work?

also when you're done recording with one, do you see a wave after that in the editor for a certain dynamic? or you don't see anything

-John

Posted on Thu, Aug 15 2019 20:51
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 498

Hi John,

I use the TEControl breath controller https://www.tecontrol.se...b-midi-breath-controller
After shipping and tax it costs around 180€. There is also a more advanved version from TEControl https://www.tecontrol.se...breath-bite-controller-2 which provides additional controller curves controlled via bite, nod and head tilt.

The controllers are registered as MIDI controllers by the system and you record the input as MIDI CC data in your DAW. You can modify the sensibility of the input via software (attached screenshot).

The Hornberg controller is way more expensive but provides more control and higher quality.

Best, Ben

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Posted on Fri, Aug 16 2019 20:47
by jshamon
Joined on Mon, Jan 22 2018, Posts 14

Hi Ben,

The way i picture this that is if i'm playing (live, or recording) using both of my hands, i can use the mouth piece as a third hand adding effects for any CC at a time but,

if i do have a midi recorded, so i don't need to use my hands, or i can free up one hand at least, can't i assign any fader or the mod wheel and make the same effect against the CC instead of the mouth piece?

 

-John

Posted on Fri, Aug 16 2019 21:00
by bbelius
Joined on Sat, Mar 14 2015, Posts 498

Yes, of course you can do that. But it is easier with the breath controller and most people are getting better results with it.

Ben | Cubase 9.5 Pro | Win 10 1903 | i5 8600k @4.4 GHz, 32GB DDR4
Posted on Sat, Aug 17 2019 17:35
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1592

I use pencil fairly frequently for CC; I also use line and parabola. At this point I prefer to edit in Note Expression even if I'm not otherwise exploiting it, because it's more flexible than the lanes.

There are certain instruments which are made to exploit particular controllers (there is a trumpet for Kontakt recently developed) where it would be much easier to have the physical controller, though.

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