Dear VSL Team, Special Attn to Mr Herb ,

It just feel so sad to see a really superb Program like VIPro with all the super very crisp Orchestralsound left behind and not further developed

Please consider

Thank you

Kind Regards,

Will

Hi Will,

I answered this question a few days ago: https://www.vsl.co.at/co...ed-Up-For-Something-Here

Best, Ben

Regarding to the VI Upgrade-wish ...

Why does no one see that they probably can’t bring the remastered Synchronized articulations back to VI?
From VSL´s point of view it is not possible. From Dietz‘ point of view, it would be a Desaster.

The whole problem? VI-MirX!

The Mixes are only made for the „old“ VI-Sound, not for the Remastered sound. Dietz had to create everything new!!
And that is probably the whole problem why the firm excessively seperates both worlds (VI VS. Synchronized) from each other.

Take the sound of both Chamber Strings (VI VS. Synchronized) as an example. Both are totally different mastered and they sound different.

Another thing is that Dietz mentioned that the Synchronized MIR X was created with a „Future MIR“ ... what ever that means ...

They did bring the updates of Dimension Strings to VI, for example.

Yes. You are right with the dimension series. I exclude them from what I wrote above. It seems that here the basic sound was not changed. Therefore no problem for VI-MIR x

I also prefer ViPro.  But I wish they would update the gui a bit for 2020, HiDPI support, among a few other things.  

I chose the Cube universe because its just an ultimately more complete and more powerful system with MirPro, many rooms to choose from, with the Cube FULL, appasionata, dimension strings and brass and basically most other silent stage libraries...its a very complete set of instruments and articulations, with MirPro capability to setup the stage and room however you want.  For true power users its way beyond Synchron.  Its not going away.  I'm not complaining about it lacking anything either, I have barely scxatched the surface of what it can do already right now.  I hope the VIPro instrument will get a little more update and love, things like bigger scalable fonts, HiDPI support, etc..  I personally think the matrix concept, the humanization features, etc..its a very powerful instrument.

I think Synchron player perhaps has some wider appeal because its easier to turn it on and just start working with a much less intimidating GUI, built in room, etc..  its more plug and play.  I've been picking up some of the syncrohized stuff on sale and plan to work with it more and more to see how I like it, though I also like using MirPro and other rooms, so really for me the synchronized stuff is more about a simpler GUI then it is about the built in room.  But for a lot of peopel new to VSL, synchron will havce a more affordable price point of entry with the built in room and decent sound without having to invest in MIR stuff or get deep into the technology for that.  I think if you look at most other libraries out there, they tend to be designed more like synchron is, with built in rooms and simple interface.  While VIPro has a rather intimidating GUI to begin with, on first look you take in the matrix and think "how should I use that?", etc.  But ViPro is also very impressive to me as a symphonic instrument plugin..I think its best in class in terms of articulation control, humanization, ability to change attack points and times and really stretch the existing library in many ways...I thihk most people barely scratch the surface of what ViPro can do, including me.  That's why synchron may ulitmately be more useful for the vast majority of people.  But at least for now I ahve over $10k invested in ViPro silent stage + MirPro...and I'm committed to that platform, so I hope VSL will continue devceloping it...including enhancing the ViPro instrument itself.

The reason for that is it is so expensive to record new samples.  (all those paid musicians!!! )  But it will certainly be done if the Synchron series continues to be successful.  It is quite successful now as it gives people who wish to have the instant playability with a built-in reverb what they want. 

But I totally agree with all the support here for the VI series as it is a means of creating things from the ground up, all based on ultra-pure sounds.  I love that aspect of it.  

Synchronizing older libraries makes a lot of sense to me. VSL samples have always been top quality, being perfomed by top musicians and recorded by top technicians following top ideas.

Their libraries have however been reserved to specialists. Even ready-made presets had to be known and used consciously. Mixing was required for positioning and reverb. They were not for beginners, despite the low price of the Horizon and Special Edition libraries.

The same samples, synchronized, are ready to use. Any beginner with a sense for the classical orchestra can start using and enjoying them. And they are compatible with the real Synchron libraries, in case they want to expand to them.

Synchon and Synchronized are not as flexible as VI+MIR can be. But since most beginners are asking for a big, cinematic sound, that is what is immediately provided with the Syncronized libraries without deactivating the space settings.

Paolo

 

Hi Paolo,

have you ever comparing VI sound and Syncron ?  e.g Dimension Strings?

cause you should,then you"ll change idea

Kind Regards

Will

I have the SE 1/+ in both versions, and I base my judgement mostly on them. What should have I had to find in this comparison?

Paolo

I'm so glad to see that VI PRO is not dying out.

Not just the sample sound quality, I use VI Pro 2 for its best-in-class ability to micro-control humanization/variation. Other libraries have these sample variations kinda built into the program, but I think VI Pro is the only one that lets us control and tweak them in depth with straghtforward GUI.

human performance control, app sequencer, repetitions, etc these detail controls are what makes VSL one of the best libraries out there. It's not just the sound quallity. I think the sound quality of most major sample libraries are pretty much about the same high quality.

I hope VSL remembers that this weakability in micromanagement is what makes VSL standout and bringing all these crazy nerdy composers and midi mockup orchestrators to buy their products.

GUI wise, I actually really like the current white-blue simple gui. It doesn't look super old, only a bit old :) but it's actually easy on my eyes when working long hours.

Please keep updating and improving VI Pro! (please better iPad remote controller!!!!)