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Last post Thu, Apr 09 2020 by Mark Schmieder, 6 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Nov 30 2019 00:27
by wholeonions
Joined on Sat, Feb 23 2019, Posts 3

I picked up the SE 7 (historical instruments) package during BF and am enjoying it quite a bit, but it's kinda lacking in one particular group of popular renaissance and baroque era instruments: lutes. I would love to have a VSL library for lutes, theorbo, baroque guitar, etc. Any plans to expand the plucked instruments section?

Posted on Sat, Nov 30 2019 00:51
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1566

The way I understand it, the historical instruments are a work in progress like all the other product lines VSL offers. For example, First you had Solo Strings, then Orchestral, then Chamber, etc. so be patient.  Good things come to those who wait.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Sat, Nov 30 2019 06:40
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 516

 

I don't want a Lute. And I don't want an baroque guitar. I want ...

... well, VSL have recorded it when they made the Blue Planet Soundtrack.

Check the Link and Go to 16:53 and 17:03 ... :) ... there it is what I want!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42MJd8VqekE

Cheers.

Posted on Sat, Nov 30 2019 11:08
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 641

Among the many, the one by Bolder Sounds is my preferred one for realism and control. It's recorded dry, so it can mix well with VSL's historic instruments.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, Nov 30 2019 11:40
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 516

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post

... Bolder Sounds is my preferred one for realism and control.

Paolo

Thanks. I did not know this firm. I wanted to buy a bagpipe anyway. These sound pretty good.

Posted on Thu, Apr 09 2020 23:45
by Mark Schmieder
Joined on Mon, May 07 2007, Concord CA, Posts 207

Bolder Sounds is a great company; Dennis started by doing patches for Yamaha MOTIF series DAW ROMpler Workstation Keyboards, and my first purchase was his excellent Bagpipe library -- the first one to offer a Drone control. His product line still fills a few niches in my collection here and there, and he's a super-nice guy to deal with, as well as holding frequent sales. He tends to record stuff fairly dry, so it blends well with VSL.

Although my hope is that VSL will eventually add more historic instruments, for now I am using a combinatioon of Soniccouture's Conservatoire Collection, which includes several Baroque Guitar, Lute, and Theorbo variations, and Fluffy Audio's Rinascimento, which has little overlap with the former and thus fleshes out the overall Baroque collection pretty well (along with pre-Baroque). It's also nice to have both, for more contrast between two instruments of the same category so they stand out better from each other in a mix.

For Viola da Gamba, Rinascimento is a bit more realistic and flexible than Cinesamples, and I slightly prefer their Virginal to the one from Bolder Sounds. Go to Fluffy Audio for the only current Archlute, Baroque Violin, a few other rare instruments that are less well-known, and Bombarde plus Dulciana.

I prefer Bolder Sounds Baroque Lute to Fluffy's, and Soniccouture for Baroque Guitar, Theorbo, and Hurdy Gurdy. 

Eduardo Tarilonte's Era Medieval Legends plugs some gaps as well, but most instruments are sample-stretched and tend to have generic interfaces vs. matching idiomatic playing styles like Rinascimento and Conservatoire.

Out of politness, I have not drawn any comparisons to VSL's own offerings, where there is overlap with other histroric instrument libraries.

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