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D-274...Will I .. Won't I. .?!?
Last post Tue, Mar 24 2020 by Paul, 6 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Mar 23 2020 11:18
by Carlspost
Joined on Wed, Dec 25 2019, Posts 2

Hi All VSL users,

I am on the verge of buying the D-274 Steinway but just need a little more reassurance. 

I have listened to the demos' and have found one (that is to my ears) the perfect sound for what I want.

On the page https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Synchron_Pianos_Bundle/Concert_D#!Demos I particularly like the Chopin Etude Op 10 no 4 recording.  Is anyone on the forum able to produce a similar sound? 

If so I will buy the software it tomorrow! Is this quality of sound a result of the software only or is there much EQ work done to achieve it? 

I just wanted to make sure.. as I have bought to many pianos that promise so much but just don't deliver without a huge amount of post production sound engineering. 

Thanks!

Posted on Mon, Mar 23 2020 16:51
by MMKA
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Posts 345

Hi, a great thing about this piano are the many microphones. And yes, you have to experiment a little with the microphones to find your ideal sound. But you don't need to do all kind tricks to get a good, beautiful natural Steinway sound. I don't have the opportunity right now to figure out the sound of op. 10 no 4, but I'm sure you will get it just by mixing a little with the microphones. When you can afford it, I think, it would be a good choice to buy the full version. The added microphones of the full version have a great added value in sound.

Posted on Mon, Mar 23 2020 16:58
by Lucy
Joined on Sun, Nov 26 2017, Posts 30

I have the Steinway full version, it's astoundingly good, and with all those mic postions you can surely get the sound you want. Maybe just roll off a little of the bass end for Chopin's Etudes. I'm sure you wouldn't regret buying it.

I am in no way affiliated with VSL :)

Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 10:40
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11768

Hi Carlspost, 

All the piano demos were made with the factory presets, maybe  slightly tweaked by our composers. 

In the case of the Chopin Etude Op 10 no 4: I checked, and it was the Concert Room-Mix preset that comes with the Standard Library. 

Best,
Paul

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Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 10:50
by Carlspost
Joined on Wed, Dec 25 2019, Posts 2

Thank you Paul,

So from what you are saying I can be assured that the Chopin Etude Opus 10 No 4 demo is not one that has had extra post rendering EQ work done. 

If this is what I can expect from using this particular preset (with slight tweaking) then I am certainly impressed!

Quick question re standard vs full.. do they both have the same amount of velocity layers? If so - how many?

Thank you again!

Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 12:53
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11768

Hello, 

Yes, no additional EQ-ing / Mastering there. 

Standard / Full contain the same amount of velocity layers, the only difference is the additional microphones you get wth the Full Library. 

That's up to 70 velocity layers for each key for the D-274. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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