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MIR Pro crashes Logic X
Last post Tue, Jul 28 2020 by Jacques Mathias, 18 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 13:20
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Hi

I'm on 10.15.5 and latest Logic

When I use MIR it kills the logic session but MIR remains open. I can load a venue, but shortly aferwards it dies.

Btw MIR always reports Software 6.5 build 18926 is available. I download & install it. Still reports the same?

Error on crash:

Process:               Logic Pro X [1094]

Path:                  /Applications/Logic Pro X.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro X

Identifier:            com.apple.logic10

Version:               10.5.0 (5283)

Build Info:            MALogic-5283000000000000~2 (10T144)

App Item ID:           634148309

App External ID:       835637741

Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)

Parent Process:        ??? [1]

Responsible:           Logic Pro X [1094]

User ID:               502

PlugIn Path:             /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/Vienna MIR Pro.component/Contents/MacOS/Vienna MIR Pro

PlugIn Identifier:       at.co.vsl.audiounit.viennamirpro

PlugIn Version:          5.4.16751 (5.4.16751)

Date/Time:             2020-06-02 14:07:05.962 +0100

OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.15.5 (19F96)

Report Version:        12

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 13:59
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Just tried using it through Maschine, using VST's and no issues. Even put a drum kit through it.

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 16:46
by MrPerc
Joined on Fri, Jul 04 2008, Posts 2

Hey James

I had the same problem with MIR pro and Logic 10.5, it crashed constantly. To regain my workflow, I was forced to go back to Logic 10.4.8. It works fine now. I'm hoping for an update to fix this bug, either from Apple's or VSL's side (looking at you, long-awaited-and-for-2020-announced-major-MIRpro-update!).

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 17:41
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Hey

Thanks for the update, really appreciate it man. Saves me troubleshooting it any further.

@VSL do you have a time frame on this potential fix?

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 18:40
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Park City, Utah, Posts 584

FWIW  - MirPro seems to work fine for me using LogicPro 10.5 on Mojave.  So maybe this is a Catalina issue?

5,1 MacPro 12core X 3.46ghz, 128gb ram, RX580 video, OSX Mojave, VSL (almost everything), LogicPro, Cubase10, StudioOne, DP9, Reaper, Dorico, Finale, MuseScore, Notion6, EW Hollywood Orch, Kirk Hunter, GPO, much more..
Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 20:05
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Could be! Maschine works though... I ain't got a clue to be honest

I'll retrieve a backup of Logic 10.4 and see how that floats for now.

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 21:10
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Yes, used 10.4 and no crash. Save the project, opened again with no issues.

Opened with 10.5 and bang within seconds

Posted on Tue, Jun 02 2020 22:18
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7417

Hi James,

sorry to hear that you're facing problems. I don't run Catalina on my machines, so I can't give it a try myself. Please get in contact with supportATvsl.co.at with a reference to this thread. VSL's Logic specialist Marnix Veenebos will look into it ASAP.

Thanks for your patience!

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 06:47
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post

Hi James,

sorry to hear that you're facing problems. I don't run Catalina on my machines, so I can't give it a try myself. Please get in contact with supportATvsl.co.at with a reference to this thread. VSL's Logic specialist Marnix Veenebos will look into it ASAP.

Thanks for your patience!

Awesome mate, will do!

Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 19:49
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Quick update.

Sent logs etc to support. I did find when/where this exactly happens, as it seemed random at first. It is as soon as you press play (spacebar) when the main MIR window is in focus. I even loaded an empty software track - loaded MIR plugin - raised the window - press play = crash.

So, as long as you don't press play with that main window is open it's fine. I could add tracks etc. Even open the main GUI and move instruments, settings etc. Close the window. Press play and all fine. It's something when the GUI is open and you hit spacebar.

See what they come back with. 

edit: couldn't get this to crash on 10.4 using the above method. Every time under 10.5

Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 19:55
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Park City, Utah, Posts 584

I ran your test, also hitting play.....using 10.5 on mavericks...and it does not crash.

I'm not meaning to challenge your assertion by the way, clearly something is broken, just trying to provide information that may help.  

The OSX and LogicPro universe is complex with lots of different things going on..it could very well be that this only happens when using LogicPro 10.5 and only on Catalina, because the 10.5 version of LogicPro may be using something under the covers when run under Catalina (that its not using when run under Mojave) which is incompatible with MirPro.  If I had to guess it would be Metal vs OpenGL related, but that is a wild guess.

5,1 MacPro 12core X 3.46ghz, 128gb ram, RX580 video, OSX Mojave, VSL (almost everything), LogicPro, Cubase10, StudioOne, DP9, Reaper, Dorico, Finale, MuseScore, Notion6, EW Hollywood Orch, Kirk Hunter, GPO, much more..
Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 20:02
by JamesH
Joined on Wed, Jan 30 2019, Posts 12

Yeah defo mate, I totally agree. I do agree that it looks like a Metal vs OpenGL related issue. Just weird how it works under 10.4... and under 10.5 as long as you don't have that window open and hit space!

At least I can continue using it now albeit under caution.

Posted on Fri, Jun 05 2020 14:32
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 984

Hi JamesH,

This problem is currently under investigation - thanks for your patience!

Best, Marnix

Posted on Fri, Jun 12 2020 18:47
by MrPerc
Joined on Fri, Jul 04 2008, Posts 2

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to mention that the newest Logic Update 10.5.1 didn't solve this problem.

Posted on Sun, Jul 19 2020 01:37
by rwholloway
Joined on Fri, Jul 17 2020, Santa Fe, NM, Posts 2

Hey folks,

Having the same issue. Running Logic Pro X 10.5.1 on an iMac with OS Catalina 10.15.5, and with Vienna MIR Pro 24 loaded into several plug in slots, Logic crashes immediately whenever I hit the space bar. MIR Pro stays open, but Logic just vanishes. Any sense of when this will be resolved. I'm a new VSL user; bought MIR Pro yesterday, so this is quite a disappointment. It has completely stopped my workflow. Thanks for any input or clarification of how to proceed!

RWH

RWH
Posted on Mon, Jul 27 2020 21:52
by Jacques Mathias
Joined on Sun, Aug 19 2007, Posts 13

Just updated to Logic 10.5.1 on Catalina 10.15.4 and yes, opening MIR Pro will crash LOGIC within seconds. 

 

- JM

Posted on Tue, Jul 28 2020 02:08
by rwholloway
Joined on Fri, Jul 17 2020, Santa Fe, NM, Posts 2

So, I got a message from VSL confirming that they're aware of the Logic Pro 10.5 crash glitch. They didn't say when it would be sorted out, but apparently they're working on it now. 

In the meantime, I did find a workaround because downgrading to previous versions of Logic wasn't possible for me (doing so deleted Melodyne ARA data). The trick is: I NEVER USE THE KEYBOARD FOR LOGIC COMMANDS WHILE THE MIR WINDOW IS SELECTED. I found that if I select the Logic Pro X window BEFORE USING KEY COMMANDS IN LOGIC, like for example, hitting the space bar to play the song, then there's no crash. I can then RESELECT the MIR window and do anything I want within it while the song plays. Then, BEFORE STOPPING playback, I RESELECT THE LOGIC PRO X WINDOW or else the application crashes. It's a pain, and I've made a misstep here and there, but I've found it workable in the short term. Can't wait for VSL to get this sorted, but hope this is helpful to people in the meantime.

RWH
Posted on Tue, Jul 28 2020 14:46
by Jacques Mathias
Joined on Sun, Aug 19 2007, Posts 13

Originally Posted by: rwholloway Go to Quoted Post

So, I got a message from VSL confirming that they're aware of the Logic Pro 10.5 crash glitch. They didn't say when it would be sorted out, but apparently they're working on it now. 

In the meantime, I did find a workaround because downgrading to previous versions of Logic wasn't possible for me (doing so deleted Melodyne ARA data). The trick is: I NEVER USE THE KEYBOARD FOR LOGIC COMMANDS WHILE THE MIR WINDOW IS SELECTED. I found that if I select the Logic Pro X window BEFORE USING KEY COMMANDS IN LOGIC, like for example, hitting the space bar to play the song, then there's no crash. I can then RESELECT the MIR window and do anything I want within it while the song plays. Then, BEFORE STOPPING playback, I RESELECT THE LOGIC PRO X WINDOW or else the application crashes. It's a pain, and I've made a misstep here and there, but I've found it workable in the short term. Can't wait for VSL to get this sorted, but hope this is helpful to people in the meantime.

 

Thanks for this tip, rwholloway. I've decided to come back to Logic 10.4.8, it wasn't a big problem to me. Can't wait to get it sorted as well, I've put off Logic update until I could finish some projects, I guess it will take even longer before I get my hands on 10.5.1!  :)

- JM

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