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Last post Fri, Jun 26 2020 by Dewdman42, 11 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jun 23 2020 08:11
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 675

Hi,

With the new Macs running on a new family of chips, I wonder if all the VSL software will be ported, or will have to be run in emulation under Rosetta.

If we purchase an ARM Mac at the end of this year, will we be able to run VSL libraries and software effectively?

Paolo

Posted on Tue, Jun 23 2020 09:05
by lupine
Joined on Sun, Feb 14 2016, Posts 21

I'd also like to have some info about that directly from VSL.

Do you expect to port your existing software to the new Apple Silicon platform?

Posted on Tue, Jun 23 2020 22:47
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, EI, Posts 216

I assume VSL aren't in a position to comment, as it was only announced yesterday.

I'm interested to hear what Steinberg have to say about the eLicenser when the time comes.

Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 03:11
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2658

+1

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 04:30
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Park City, Utah, Posts 587

If I were you I would highly recommend that you do not buy any ARM macs any time soon.  Look at it again in a few years.  Intel macs are going to keep working just fine for a few more years and for the next few years I would expect Intel to out perform ARM for audio applications in everywhere.  It will be quite a while before all the audio related software on your system is completely converted over to native ARM.  Be patient.  Wait.  I'm sure VSL will eventually get on the ARM bandwagon too because that will be the future for macs....but honestly, I think we are 5 years away from needing to worry about it.  Keep using Intel for now and don't worry.  

5,1 MacPro 12core X 3.46ghz, 128gb ram, RX580 video, OSX Mojave, VSL (almost everything), LogicPro, Cubase10, StudioOne, DP9, Reaper, Dorico, Finale, MuseScore, Notion6, EW Hollywood Orch, Kirk Hunter, GPO, much more..
Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 12:01
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, EI, Posts 216

If Logic and Final Cut had a few bugs ironed out, I'd buy an ARM Mac just for them, even with a performance hit. I have to use them both for non-musical stuff.

My current computer is fine for the foreseeable future for anything music related.

Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 21:56
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 675

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42 Go to Quoted Post

If I were you I would highly recommend that you do not buy any ARM macs any time soon.  

And then, there are those who were still using their nearly-obsolete Macs, waiting for a new generation of inexpensive minis to replace them… :(

Paolo

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 22:16
by fatis12_24918
Joined on Sat, Dec 16 2006, Posts 269

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42 Go to Quoted Post

If I were you I would highly recommend that you do not buy any ARM macs any time soon.  

And then, there are those who were still using their nearly-obsolete Macs, waiting for a new generation of inexpensive minis to replace them… :(

Paolo

Mi spiace Paolo... but "inexpensive" is a word excluded by the Apple dictionary, at least for all the new stuff...

temo ci vorrà un po'...

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2020 23:14
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 675

Originally Posted by: fatis12_24918 Go to Quoted Post

Mi spiace Paolo... but "inexpensive" is a word excluded by the Apple dictionary, at least for all the new stuff...

I'll correct myself, then: I was waiting for a powerful "around 2,000 euros" replacement Mac, ready to go. Like the current mini + third party memory, but with more steroids. And, possibly, not totally incompatible with most of the existing software…

Paolo

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2020 02:33
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2658

Intel is overpricing it's CPU because it has the monopoly !

Looks this one :

Being Intel’s fastest 28-core CPU for multi-socket servers, the Xeon Platinum 8284 processor costs $15,460 (recommended customer price for 1k unit order, RCP), whereas the Xeon Platinum 8280 that runs at a 300 MHz lower frequency, costs $10,009 for 1ku.

How do you want to sell a Mac Pro at $ 5000  if it has 2 x Xeon 8284 processors at $ 30 020 

Let's wait and see what is going to happened for Christmas !

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Jun 26 2020 05:55
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Park City, Utah, Posts 587

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42 Go to Quoted Post

If I were you I would highly recommend that you do not buy any ARM macs any time soon.  

And then, there are those who were still using their nearly-obsolete Macs, waiting for a new generation of inexpensive minis to replace them… :(

Paolo

 

Apple says they still have some Intel based macs in the pipeline which are yet to be released, Intel is not over yet.  Maybe you will be able to pick up one of the last ones of those, but personally I would wait 5 years to consider ARM macs for music production.  But we shall see what happens.

5,1 MacPro 12core X 3.46ghz, 128gb ram, RX580 video, OSX Mojave, VSL (almost everything), LogicPro, Cubase10, StudioOne, DP9, Reaper, Dorico, Finale, MuseScore, Notion6, EW Hollywood Orch, Kirk Hunter, GPO, much more..
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