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Last post Mon, Sep 14 2020 by Dietz, 5 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Aug 10 2020 12:56
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 173

Hi

Sorry for this newbie question, I don't know a lot of things about mixing. Am I doing something wrong if I insert the Imager Pro after MIR Pro on a track (Bassoon II) and change the width to 1,5? I like the result but I want to be sure I'm not doing something weird. Also, I've tried to insert the Imager Pro before MIR Pro but it doesn't change the sound at all. Is there a reason for that? Thanks!

Best, David

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Posted on Mon, Aug 10 2020 13:19
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7429

Hi David,

there's nothing wrong with it per se . You know the old saying, "If it sounds right, it is right!". But read on. ;-)

The reason that you aim for that solution might be very well solvable directly within MIR Pro, though, by selecting a Main Microphone settings that gives you more width, and/or by adding a Secondary Microphone with capsules aimed towards the side- or backwalls of the selected Venue, or by choosing a different Main Microphone position in general (... most likely one closer to the source).

The answer to your second question is quite obvious: You can't change the width of a signal with a processor that's working _before_  the actual sound source, routing-wise. :-) Using the Vienna Suite's Imager on the dry Bassoon signal will widen the instrument's sound itself, but this effect will get lost to a large extent anyway as soon as the signal enters MIR which takes care for its position, width and rotation itself, by definition. The reverb can't be affected by the Imager like this. 

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Aug 10 2020 16:30
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 173

Hi Dietz

Thank you very much. That's very helpful.

Best regards, David

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Posted on Sun, Sep 13 2020 16:12
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1644

Similar question regarding Imager Pro and MIR Pro: I'm using the former to correct some inexplicable panning issues (in certain BFD3 things), which it does about as well as anything will I suppose, but is this image unsuitable for MIR Pro by its nature? I have not needed it but I well may want it.

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Posted on Mon, Sep 14 2020 07:31
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7429

I'm not sure that I understood the question correctly ...? Of course you can use Imager Pro to adapt the signal coming from MIR Pro if there's the need for it. :-) What I tried to point out in my previous answer was that the signal chain described wouldn't allow for any meaningful results due to a simple technical fallacy. 

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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