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Hearing a Flange in SYNCHRON STRINGS PRO
Last post Fri, Nov 26 2021 by lupine, 14 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2020 07:14
by neelmusic11
Joined on Tue, Aug 25 2015, Posts 17

Hi All,

I just bought the Synchron Strings Pro crossgrade and installed it. I am running Synchron player in Logic and have loaded up the factory patches. When I am playing notes on the long articulations I am getting this very evident and strong Flanging / Phasing effect especially on legato patches. This is not happening in the Synchron 1 set. 

I have tried switching on and off the reverb, also soloed the different mic and checked different combinations, also tried to delete and reinstall the library after downloading it again, also reinstalled the synchron player, yet this issue is still present.

Please guide as to what might be happening ?

 

Thanks and regards

Neelesh

Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2020 08:09
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12877

Hi Neelesh,

Do you want to add an example mp3 or send that to ?

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2020 08:24
by neelmusic11
Joined on Tue, Aug 25 2015, Posts 17

Hi Paul,

Thanks a lot for your reply. Am attaching the mp3 here and will send it to email as well.

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi Neelesh,

Do you want to add an example mp3 or send that to ?

Best,
Paul

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ViennaU0020SYnchronU0020Test.mp3 (3,301kb) downloaded 41 time(s).

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Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2020 09:57
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12877

Hi, 

Thanks. There must be something very weird in the setup... Maybe you have activated multiple MIDI inputs or something like that?

Did you try in the standalone version of Synchron Player, or with a brand-new song in your sequencer?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Oct 21 2020 16:57
by t.j.goldsmith
Joined on Fri, Oct 26 2018, Annapolis, MD, Posts 3

@Neelesh     I have experienced the same thing and reported it a few weeks ago (along with a example that sounds similar to yours). It seemed it was only happening to me when I was using the VST3 version of the Synchron Player in VSTHost. I initially thought it could be aliasing, but I was told it was probably flanging/phasing like you stated. I don't really agree with this since I wasn't using a flanger/phaser in the chain anywhere (and rarely do). No real conclusion was made, other than it seemed unlikely that there would be too many others out there specifically using the VST3 version VSTHost, if any. 

Posted on Mon, Nov 02 2020 02:21
by sonofharry1179
Joined on Wed, Dec 07 2011, Posts 3

I was experiencing the the same issue. Standalone Player seems to work fine, but getting flanging issues when running VST3 or VST2 plugin in Studio One 5. Read Paul's suggestion and saw that I had two instances of my MIDI keyboard listed in the External Devices. Removed one of them and problem was solved.

Posted on Fri, Sep 10 2021 21:21
by Tookkonen
Joined on Tue, Jul 27 2021, Finland, Posts 1

Same thing with Elite Strings. Really weird phasing time to time. No plugins, just Synchron player.

Posted on Fri, Sep 10 2021 22:29
by Ben
Joined on Sat, Mar 06 2021, Los Angeles, Posts 93

Originally Posted by: 169764 Go to Quoted Post

Same thing with Elite Strings. Really weird phasing time to time. No plugins, just Synchron player.

What DAW are you using?

Ben @VSL
Posted on Sun, Oct 17 2021 00:20
by ronnierck
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2012, Posts 1

Hi! The same problem here! I export .xlm from Dorico 3.5 and sometimes the phaser effect appears.

Someone managed to solve the problem?

Thanks!

Posted on Sun, Oct 17 2021 18:13
by ravez
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2011, Posts 6

I have Pro and Elite, used it standalone, as vst2/3/au in logic, cubase and studio one. Never had this problem. I’d be really curious to know what can cause this though. 

Posted on Mon, Oct 18 2021 19:59
by dterry
Joined on Thu, Jan 30 2003, Posts 46

I have heard the same problem here - Elite Strings mostly, but I've heard it in Synchron Pro as well.  It happens mostly when using Vibrato XFades, even with a single mic.  It sounds like the transitions are not phase aligned to one another.   It is very audible and has severely limited how much I can use Elite/Synchron Pro vs other string libraries. 

Posted on Tue, Oct 19 2021 23:17
by ravez
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2011, Posts 6

The phasing issue of the xfade vibrato is a separate issue i think. It’s nowhere near what i hear in the mp3 example on this thread. This one is much more extreme. But i did end up avoiding using the xfade vibrato for that phasing issue, wish they could solve that

Posted on Fri, Nov 26 2021 08:56
by dbplayer
Joined on Sat, Apr 17 2021, Sweden, Posts 1

Hi,

I also experienced this issue. I think the flanging is affecting all patches, but is obviously better noticeable when playing long notes. I use a StudioLogic SL88 Studio master keyboard and had this issue when the master keyboard was connected with USB to my DAW. When I connected the SL88 with midi cables to my sound card, the issue disappeared. Never investigated it any further.

/Marcus

Posted on Fri, Nov 26 2021 09:47
by lupine
Joined on Sun, Feb 14 2016, Posts 56

Hello,

I had the same issue highlighted in the mp3 file and the cause was an improper manual setup of either my DAW or instrument patches in Synchron Player (colliding MIDI channels, colliding CCs...).

Regarding instead the Xfade related one I read on another forum that somebody resolved it by zero-ing the humanize tuning slider. I'll try that as soon as possible.

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