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MISSION COMPLETED: Moving from eLicenser to iLok
Last post Sat, Nov 05 2022 by musicman691, 342 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Apr 14 2022 02:51
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13528

Hi, 

Hm, that's the first time I have seen that question... I actually don't know, but I don't see what speaks against it. 
I guess the next time you install an update, it will be installed into separate folders in your Applications folder again, Mac standard. 

Best, 
Paul

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Posted on Thu, Apr 14 2022 10:31
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

Hm, that's the first time I have seen that question... I actually don't know, but I don't see what speaks against it. 
I guess the next time you install an update, it will be installed into separate folders in your Applications folder again, Mac standard. 

Best, 
Paul

I do know there are a lot of programs that will allow installation into whatever folder you want on a Mac. Oh well - it was worth a try.

Jack
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Posted on Fri, Apr 15 2022 22:17
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1366

I can't find if this has been already explained, but – how can one install Synchron Strings I Optimized, on iLok? I can't see them in Vienna Assistant.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, Apr 16 2022 00:28
by MMKA
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Posts 486

Hi Paolo, I see them in the chapter Synchron Series, the same chapter, where Synchron Strings I is. I give you a screenshot.

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Posted on Sat, Apr 16 2022 10:38
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1366

Originally Posted by: MMKA Go to Quoted Post

Hi Paolo, I see them in the chapter Synchron Series, the same chapter, where Synchron Strings I is. I give you a screenshot.

Thank you, MMKA. Now I see it in my VA.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, May 21 2022 15:49
by Seventh Sam
Joined on Sat, Dec 29 2018, Posts 345

Paul, Ben, and VSL:

After giving it a while, I'm happy to say that - for me - the process of switching from e-Licenser to iLok went completely uneventful for me.  

Downloading was a breeze, installation was straightforward enough, nothing glitched out or gave me a heart attack.  The only possible hiccup is a potential bug/performance issue with VEP7 post i-Lok change (which I've sent a support ticket for and may or may not be unrelated to the iLok switch).  Everything else has gone swimmingly as far as I can tell.

Thank you for taking your time with this and executing it with patience and diligence.  I know it hasn't gone as smoothly for everyone, but I think it's important to hear of the successes along with the stumbles.

- Sam

Posted on Fri, Sep 09 2022 17:40
by Vagfilm
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2020, Portugal, Posts 11

I have a VSL library (Synchron Piano D-274) with the eLicenser license that I use in a laptop with the eLicenser dongle (from time to time I have to use it offline, and I like the convenience of the dongle). I am now considering to buy another synchron piano library (the Yamaha CFX), and that will of course come with the current iLok licensing.

My question is: can I have both systems installed in the same computer (not simultaneously, of course)? Run the d-274 with the eLicenser dongle and the CFX with the iLok system?

Posted on Fri, Sep 09 2022 18:39
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm Go to Quoted Post

I have a VSL library (Synchron Piano D-274) with the eLicenser license that I use in a laptop with the eLicenser dongle (from time to time I have to use it offline, and I like the convenience of the dongle). I am now considering to buy another synchron piano library (the Yamaha CFX), and that will of course come with the current iLok licensing.

My question is: can I have both systems installed in the same computer (not simultaneously, of course)? Run the d-274 with the eLicenser dongle and the CFX with the iLok system?

Why not just transfer the eLicenser asset over to your iLok?

Jack
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Posted on Fri, Sep 09 2022 19:14
by Vagfilm
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2020, Portugal, Posts 11
Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Why not just transfer the eLicenser asset over to your iLok?


I already did that, but in a separate computer. Thus, I have a music-only laptop that is able to run the d274 offline with a dongle, and a work laptop that runs the ilok 274 (whenever I don't have the music laptop with me). I know that you can't have the SAME license on ilok and eLicenser on the same machine. But I am not sure what happens with two different licenses on the same machine: can you have one under eLicenser and the other one for a different library running on iLok?
Posted on Fri, Sep 09 2022 20:08
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post
Why not just transfer the eLicenser asset over to your iLok?
I already did that, but in a separate computer. Thus, I have a music-only laptop that is able to run the d274 offline with a dongle, and a work laptop that runs the ilok 274 (whenever I don't have the music laptop with me). I know that you can't have the SAME license on ilok and eLicenser on the same machine. But I am not sure what happens with two different licenses on the same machine: can you have one under eLicenser and the other one for a different library running on iLok?
I still don't understand the problem. Are you saying you want to have the license on 2 different computers at the same time? If so why worry about having them on the same machine? Your description isn't all that clear on exactly what you are trying to do. Or don't you want to move the iLok between machines? The iLok license moves with the iLok.

Jack
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Posted on Fri, Sep 09 2022 23:04
by Vagfilm
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2020, Portugal, Posts 11
Ok... I have a d-274 eLicenser library running in my main laptop, and would like to keep it like that for as long as possible (I am offline from time to time, and that will force me to get an iLok dongle).

If I buy another synchron piano library, that library will come with an iLok license.

So, my question is: can both libraries co-exist in the same machine, or the moment I install the second library (iLok one) I will also be forced to install the iLok license of the d-274 and I will have no more offline library (unless I get the iLok dongle, of course)?
Posted on Sat, Sep 10 2022 04:30
by Jane Fleming
Joined on Sat, Aug 07 2021, California, Posts 16

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm Go to Quoted Post
Ok... I have a d-274 eLicenser library running in my main laptop, and would like to keep it like that for as long as possible (I am offline from time to time, and that will force me to get an iLok dongle). If I buy another synchron piano library, that library will come with an iLok license. So, my question is: can both libraries co-exist in the same machine, or the moment I install the second library (iLok one) I will also be forced to install the iLok license of the d-274 and I will have no more offline library (unless I get the iLok dongle, of course)?

Hi, Vag,

My understanding is No:  https://www.vsl.info/en/tutorials/faqs/ilok#ilokelcc

Posted on Sat, Sep 10 2022 10:12
by Vagfilm
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2020, Portugal, Posts 11
Thanks Jane F, I am well aware of that information from the FAQ (that was the reason for not buying the license upgrade from standard to full of the d-274 during last sale...), but I think that the wording in the faq is not 100% clear about the possibility of maintaining both licensing systems in the same machine for NON-SIMULTANEOUS use of different libraries. That is why I asked here for an official response, before deciding if a go full iLok or maintain my current situation. But should have asked before Paul's weekend :)
Posted on Sat, Sep 10 2022 10:40
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm Go to Quoted Post
Thanks Jane F, I am well aware of that information from the FAQ (that was the reason for not buying the license upgrade from standard to full of the d-274 during last sale...), but I think that the wording in the faq is not 100% clear about the possibility of maintaining both licensing systems in the same machine for NON-SIMULTANEOUS use of different libraries. That is why I asked here for an official response, before deciding if a go full iLok or maintain my current situation. But should have asked before Paul's weekend :)
I would just go iLok and be done with it. The iLok3 is smaller than iLok2. Sooner or later you're going to run into s/w that needs it as not everything that does iLok allows the use of machine licensing where you don't need the physical iLok.

Jack
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Posted on Sun, Sep 18 2022 15:24
by Vagfilm
Joined on Sat, Nov 21 2020, Portugal, Posts 11
In case it is of interest to anyone, i was indeed unable to mix eLicenser and iLok synchon piano products IN THE SAME MACHINE. Guess I will have to forget using VSL offline (unless I buy the iLok dongle, but since I had bought the Steinberg eLicenser a couple of weeks before VSL announced the move to iLok, I am not too keen on getting another even more expensive dongle).
Posted on Sun, Sep 18 2022 16:47
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm Go to Quoted Post
In case it is of interest to anyone, i was indeed unable to mix eLicenser and iLok synchon piano products IN THE SAME MACHINE. Guess I will have to forget using VSL offline (unless I buy the iLok dongle, but since I had bought the Steinberg eLicenser a couple of weeks before VSL announced the move to iLok, I am not too keen on getting another even more expensive dongle).
For the umpteenth time - just go iLok as sooner or later you're going to run into s/w that needs the physical iLok dongle. I believe even Steinberg has deprecated the eLicenser system.

Jack
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Posted on Fri, Nov 04 2022 18:35
by deswind
Joined on Fri, Jan 19 2007, Posts 30

Where can I read the latest on how to go from the elicensor to ilok without trying to read 17 pages of posts on this thread?  Thank you!!!

Posted on Fri, Nov 04 2022 19:28
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: deswind Go to Quoted Post

Where can I read the latest on how to go from the elicensor to ilok without trying to read 17 pages of posts on this thread?  Thank you!!!

I would jump a few pages in from the beginning and look - it's what anyone of us would have to do.

Jack
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Posted on Fri, Nov 04 2022 19:39
by deswind
Joined on Fri, Jan 19 2007, Posts 30

Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: deswind Go to Quoted Post

Where can I read the latest on how to go from the elicensor to ilok without trying to read 17 pages of posts on this thread?  Thank you!!!

I would jump a few pages in from the beginning and look - it's what anyone of us would have to do.

I found what I needed here: https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Hello_iLok

Posted on Fri, Nov 04 2022 21:09
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Sopranos State - New Jersey, Posts 204

Originally Posted by: deswind Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: musicman691 Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: deswind Go to Quoted Post

Where can I read the latest on how to go from the elicensor to ilok without trying to read 17 pages of posts on this thread?  Thank you!!!

I would jump a few pages in from the beginning and look - it's what anyone of us would have to do.

I found what I needed here: https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Hello_iLok#:~:text=Starting%20now%2C%20when%20you%20purchase,iLok%20License%20Manager%20for%20activation.

Just to let you know but your link doesn't work. Still a simple search here would have turned up the fix or use Google to find the answer. Not trying to be a jerk but learning how to use search tools like Google or Duck Duck Go will go a long way to getting you through life.

Jack
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