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Posted on Wed, Apr 14 2021 01:45
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5626
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Posted on Wed, Apr 14 2021 15:29
by woy
Joined on Sun, Oct 31 2004, Monaco, Posts 42

William you could not be more correct. The attention to detail that has run through the entire company is actually incredible, from the very first products to today. I have admired how this company operates for many years and they are light years ahead of all the competition. Regards. Roy

Posted on Wed, Apr 14 2021 16:23
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires, MA, Posts 1030

We should also give thanks to the developers of GigaSampler/GigaStudio, where ever they may be today, for creating the platform to make this all possible.

Finale 25, Sibelius 2018, Notion 6, Overture 5, Cubase 10.5, StaffPad
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Posted on Thu, Apr 15 2021 01:05
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5626
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Posted on Thu, Apr 15 2021 19:34
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 276

I concur with all of the above and add my admiration of VSL's wonderful devotion to their craft in this day and age, when highly optimised design-for-production takes top priority, and automation, shortcuts, cheap methods and dumbed-down procedures have all but totally supplanted human skills and craftsmanship in the interests of "the bottom line".

But ... the damnable virus pandemic has hit so many businesses worldwide, and I don't doubt commercial recording activities in Synchron Sound Stage have been hit too. I can only hope with all my heart that VSL will weather the storm, whatever it takes to do so.

Posted on Fri, Apr 16 2021 01:50
by plowman
Joined on Sat, Dec 13 2003, Posts 1120

I view this company with on-going wonderment. 

My progression is familiar to many of you: Emax > Roland S550 > Kurzweil 2500K (orchestral ROM)  > EXS > Giga > Vienna > Vienna plus Synchron. 

Actually it all began with the SCI Six-Trak, whose marketing handout proclaimed "Your Personal Orchestra." ... All six analog voices. Of course, if you wanted to sequence those voices as discrete instruments, you needed a Commodore 64.

Those who are now entering VSL libraries for the first time should count their blessings. "Son, when I was your age...."

VSL is peerless. As William has indicated, they were the fork in the sampling road. 

Posted on Sat, Apr 17 2021 01:28
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5626
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Posted on Sat, Apr 17 2021 01:32
by William
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Posted on Sat, Apr 17 2021 10:56
by Pixelpoet1985
Joined on Fri, Dec 23 2016, Germany, Posts 304

First, I agree with everything said.

Originally Posted by: William Go to Quoted Post

Another thing that struck me is how VSL innovated the analysis of musical phrases and performance - now it's normal for sample libraries but VSL was the first using performance of legato, repetitions, round robins etc. that make the performance so close to real. 

It should be normal, but it isn't. It's very far away, in my opinion.

The only thing much talked about is this exaggerated, portamento-y legato. Every developer wants to have a better legato as the competition, but they totally neglect the very important performances and elements (like connected repetitions etc.). All the libraries I own don't have these performances – all the time it's only legato, legato and legato, and even this isn't made right. Some libraries have only bow change legato as their standard legato patch, it's ridiculous. VSL did everything right in the first place and no other library really comes close.

The only other library I have which has something in this direction is Hollywood Orchestra. They have a legato repetition patch, but it is far away from VSL's excellent scripting. Other libraries have repetitions where you have to press a key-switch or hold the sustain pedal; with VSL you just play the legato patch and you have repetitions built in (or switch to the performance repetitions in the VI libraries).

And this is really what I'm ALWAYS talking about, either here in this forum or at vi-control. VSL and other libraries, it's really like apples and oranges. And this is because you don't know anything about VSL's patches as a new user or buyer. You see lower prices at the competition and expect that the less expensive library has everything VSL has. VSL's prices actually has to be higher (sorry, wallet!), because they both have higher quality control, better scripting and these different performances. And, most of all, different (high-quality) legato recording/scripting. Many libraries just use simple legato crossfades or only bow-change legato instead of dedicated legato landing notes, and have the same prices as VSL. VSL's legato feels like playing the actual instruments, and because of this legato approach, you can play even trills. Other libraries have severe problems playing trills with the legato patch.

Posted on Sun, Apr 18 2021 01:18
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5626
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