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Gain Staging in Cubase with MIR Pro
Last post Fri, Jun 11 2021 by Dietz, 2 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Jun 10 2021 12:03
by gcorcella
Joined on Mon, Sep 23 2019, Posts 7

Hello, 

I usually use MIR Pro like I virtually am in a real recording and mixing environment: In the mixing project I put it before any other plugin like the instruments were first recorded in a room and then mixed and processed (I am curious to read about other workarounds though). 

I used to do Gain Staging in Cubase before starting the mix in order to balance the peaks of every instrument at about -18/-15 dB. Now that I use MIR Pro I do Gain Staging first with the plugins deactivated, but when I activate the MIR Pro plugins the volumes are turned down or up depending on the faders on MIR Pro itself. So I basically move the faders all at once in order to achieve the right volumes again. Does it makes sense? I'm curious to read about how you deal with this. 

I also thought that I could use directly the MIR Pro faders to do gain staging instead of the pre-Gain section of Cubase but I'm not sure if this will affect someway the distances and relationships between the instruments into the room, 

Posted on Fri, Jun 11 2021 18:31
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7657

Originally Posted by: gcorcella Go to Quoted Post

Hello, 

I usually use MIR Pro like I virtually am in a real recording and mixing environment: In the mixing project I put it before any other plugin like the instruments were first recorded in a room and then mixed and processed (I am curious to read about other workarounds though).

That's a valid approach. I tend to do all the stuff that I usually do to "prepare" a signal for the actual mix before it enters MIR Pro, though. This ranges from any kind of restoration processing to "dynamic gluing" by means of compression.

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I used to do Gain Staging in Cubase before starting the mix in order to balance the peaks of every instrument at about -18/-15 dB. Now that I use MIR Pro I do Gain Staging first with the plugins deactivated, but when I activate the MIR Pro plugins the volumes are turned down or up depending on the faders on MIR Pro itself. So I basically move the faders all at once in order to achieve the right volumes again. Does it makes sense? I'm curious to read about how you deal with this.

Makes sense. :-) 

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I also thought that I could use directly the MIR Pro faders to do gain staging instead of the pre-Gain section of Cubase but I'm not sure if this will affect someway the distances and relationships between the instruments into the room

MIR Pro's Instrument-faders will never change the the dry/wet ratio, so there's no need to be afraid of any other effects than simple volume changes. What _will_ have implications on the dry volume as well as the dry/wet ratio is any kind of position change, especially when moving the Icon away from the Main Microphone. You can restrict this behaviour to "positioning only" by de-activating the option for Distance Dependent Scaling in the Dry Signal Settings panel.

HTH,

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