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Apple's latest nasty policy in Logic Pro
Last post Fri, Jul 23 2021 by Macker, 4 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2021 12:01
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 338

In the Help files for Logic Pro 10.6.3 I came across this bombshell under the "Work with projects/Save projects" section:-

"Important: After a project is saved as a Logic Pro project, it can no longer be opened in earlier versions of Logic Pro."

At the very least, this means some professional content creators will have to keep and use multiple versions of the Logic Pro application in order to provide a Logic project deliverable that matches the Logic app version currently in use by a client.

Also, not yet sure how this rule may be accommodated in everday usage of Logic Pro, in terms of always being ready and able to roll back - without losing work - if new issues are encountered in a new version of Logic Pro.

Just another nightmare from those delightful masters of the universe in Cupertino.

What's it like being a godlike, perfect corporation, Apple?

Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2021 20:06
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1121

Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but hasn't always been this way? The newer version can read the older, but the opposite is not granted. Sometimes, you could open a newer version's file with an older version of Logic, with a warning message. But it wasn't officially supported.


Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2021 20:11
by Dewdman42
Joined on Tue, Feb 27 2018, Posts 783

I don't think very many of the DAW's promise to be able to open newer projects in older versions of the software.  That is not a realistic expectation.  

LogicPro, however, does sometimes have problems with older templates that were created prior to versions 10.4.5, where they introduced a lot of changes related to getting more instrument tracks available....from 255 to 1000.  The projects will open, but people sometimes report strange problems with them.  

Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2021 21:49
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 338

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Paolo, I have quite a collection of Logic versions; swapping 'backwards' between them has sometimes been a matter of necessity for me and rarely presented any serious problems - other than simply not being able to fulfil a more recent function (but that didn't usually bother me too much since I work chiefly in the Environment, which has hardly changed at all during the last 20 years).

(Oh and there's no need to pay any heed to the specious pest who mendaciously tries to smear and cry wolf at every opportunity; he's already been busted for doing that here and elsewhere).

Up until this new rule, opening a Logic project in an older Logic Pro version in some cases (as you mentioned) just flagged up a notification advising that the project was made in a later version; but generally it was ok. One big exception was the impossibility of opening a Logic Pro X project in Logic Pro 9 (in a MacOS capable of running Logic 9).

Logic was admirable in the old days (I have in mind LAP 3.5 F) for always making every effort to carry on manfully as best it could in the face of any sort of adversity; unlike Cubase which in those days tended to fall over at the slightest problem, often taking the computer down with it. (That was before Steinberg replaced huge chunks of Cubase's old code with pristine new code from Nuendo.) But nowadays Logic's behaviour is more like that of millennial 'script kiddies' - including some not as young but with similar gross lack of maturity, good sense, empathy, responsibility and intestinal fortitude.

Abnormality is the new normality. These 'script kiddies' in particular nowadays just do not seem to care - or even know - that they're incapable of reading anyone else's feelings. Their software code, and their posts in so-called 'social' media, reflect and ultimately betray their sociopathically narcissistic mentality. I wouldn't trust them to code a TV remote control device, let alone a DAW. Over the years I've known and worked with very many software professionals, many of them real adepts and a pleasure to work with. And I've had to deal with 'script kiddies'. I learnt to know the difference the long, hard way. These days however, it appears the proportion of adepts in that profession is alarmingly small.

So today we're already in, erm, "interesting times"; God only knows what lies ahead.

I have a happy dream that one day Apple will lose, big time, to a huge class-action lawsuit that calls out their fraudulent use of the word "Pro" in Logic Pro. Lolol.

Now I'd better shaddap and offer my apologies to VSL for veering so far off course from VSL topics.

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