VEP7 over modern powerline adapter?

[LX2]

Dear VSL-Team,
thanks for your great software!

I'm getting startet with VEP7 and trying to find a solution for connecting my Laptop (1.floor) to my PC (basement). Sadly I have not the opportunity to connect both PCs via ethernet because of the infrastructure, so my first try was to connect via WiFi. Astonishingly the latency was verry good, even with high buffer sizes, but of course there were drop-outs and crackles every 4 to 5 seconds

I'm not sure what exactly is the limiting factor here, but it seems, that it's a physical problem of the medium "air" instead of "copper-cable" or maybe the difference in network-communication  (more technically speaking iso/osi layer 1&2)

So my question is,  does it make sense (=gives me better results), if I try to use a modern powerline adaptor ( something like FRITZ!Powerline 1260E) to connect the PC in basement with my Router, and connect the laptop via ethernet with the router. Currently both connected vie WiFi

The last thread in this forum with the topic "powerline" that i found was from 2017. I think the technology has improved since then...

Any hints or experience in this area would be highly appreciated.

Kind regards from Munich,Germany

[Ben]

Hi!

Running ethernet over powerline quit a complex topic.
The quality of connection will depend on the quality of the cables and how they are connected.
Also, devices like the vacuum, air-conditioner, heater can influence the signal.
And not at least: Even if it shouldn't work, sometimes the neighbour(s) is able to receive the signal / if one of your neighbours is using such a system it might interfere with yours.

Conclusion: You have to try for yourself if these devices work in your building and if you get sufficient connection speed and quality.

Best, Ben

[LX2]

Hi Ben,
thank you for your Feedback!

I have some News about the powerline topic:
It seems to work quite nice in terms of Latency. The bigest problem seems to be the bandwith.
With my home-setup I get about 250 MBit between my Laptop and the Server (over powerline).

In my test scenario I had 3 Instances within VEP each with 8 Kontakt Instruments an 4 Stereo-Outputs, and it works quite well. I had some pops an clicks when using more than 4 Stereo-Outputs per instance ==> It seems, that in this (powerline) scenario, it is better to have more instances with limited Ouput-Channels in a VEP Project than one Instance with lots of outputs.

Needs further testing...

Kind Regards,
Alex

[PaoloT]

During summer, I work on my laptop in a fresher room, remotely controlling my desktop Mac sitting in the studio under the roof.

The old powerline of my home is working smooth. A newer set of powerline devices might work much better, even if I don't know if the technology has evolved very much during the years.

For someone electrosensitive like me, being able to avoid WiFi as much as possible is a very good thing. Unfortunately, there is no effective way to share audio (even if third-party solutions do exist).

My house is a couple decades old, and there is a good electric system. When the fridge's compressor starts working, however, the quality of communication is evidently, if not dramatically, decreasing.

If you can, run a good-quality ethernet cable. I'm sure there are older TV or phone cables no longer in use, that can be easily replaced by newer cables.

Paolo

[LX2]

Finally I switched to (semi-outdoor) cable ...

The Problem was, that the Powerline in use only had araound 150mbit ( unstable )

Eventhough I think this bandwidth should be enough , the problem was, that if you use multipel Outputs in parallel (what I assume most of VEP-users do) cracks and pops returned :(

Maybe an issue of the medium "powerline"  or of the adaptors when converting multiple signals in realtime.