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Synchron Strings Expressionmaps in Cubase
Last post Mon, Nov 15 2021 by ronaudio_13968, 9 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Nov 07 2021 13:19
by ronaudio_13968
Joined on Tue, May 03 2005, Posts 53

Hi,

is there any one who use the synchron Library with the expressionmaps in Cubase?

For me they dosnt work like expected. The Keyswitches seems to be wrong some how. Somehow inbetween the Regular Playin Notes.(??)

Thx for Reply

Ron

Posted on Sun, Nov 07 2021 21:43
by ravez
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2011, Posts 29

I found an error in the keyswitches mapping for Synchron Elite Strings on the articulation Perf.Legato/Molto Vib/Regular/Soft Rel./Marcato which is pointing to Normal Rel instead of of Soft. Easy to fix, but share any other wrong mappings if you find them. The rest is working as expected for me so far, but haven't tried all billions of combinations :)

Posted on Mon, Nov 08 2021 09:51
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3555

Hi Ron and ravez!

Take care that the root note in the Expression Maps Setup windows is set to C0. Otherwise the keyswitches will be shifted.

Ravez, you are right about one wrong switch in the expression that you have mentioned. Updated expression maps should be online soon.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Nov 14 2021 14:42
by ronaudio_13968
Joined on Tue, May 03 2005, Posts 53

Hello Andi, Hello Users

On the SS you see how i setted up my VI-PRO2 Expressionmaps for Live and! Playback.There are two Matrizes. The only Differnce is, that i use CC-Controls for the Y-Axis. All others are the same, so you have only to Copy.

I will do the same with SP and his Expressionmaps. The Cool thing on one Hand is, that with combine the KS and CC`s you dont loose your Playrange so mutch. For Live you have the only KS Matrizes.

The Idee for the diagonal arrangement was the Lucky thing i think. So you need only one KS for the "Articulation" but to have the Possibility to easy move e.g from "Stac" to "Stac Rep" with only one more KS and you get back with one KS too.

Dont know if that any Body helps..

But Andi, is there no more Possibilitys to make Volum-Fades in the Key-Range?

THX

Ron

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Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2021 08:29
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3555

Hello Ron!

I guess I don't fully understand what you are trying to do. Please understand that we can't support custom made expression maps. I would always recommend using the expression maps that we have prepared.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2021 15:38
by JBuck
Joined on Sun, Jun 09 2019, Posts 57

Hi Ron,

I would strongly recommend using more matrixes or matrices .

This way you can re-use e.g. C-1 multiple times. So the Expression Map output mapping would look like:

Legato - C-2 _ C-1

Legato Marcato - C-2 _ C#-1 

Staccato - C#-2 _ C-1

Staccato Bold - C#-2 _ C#-1

This way you don't run into the playable range of an instrument.

 

Regards 

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Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2021 16:12
by ronaudio_13968
Joined on Tue, May 03 2005, Posts 53

Hi Andi,

Thx for reply.

i try to simplify the Selection Progress. And make it possibel to use KS in your Expressionmap.

Best,

Ron

Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2021 16:17
by ronaudio_13968
Joined on Tue, May 03 2005, Posts 53

Hi JBuck,

Thx for Reply.

"Matrizen" is the German/Vienna Word, sorry.


Dont know if you saw the SS from me, its not only a 2 Artikulation Matrix..;) (SS VI-Pro Setup Expressionmap)

But anyway.

Waht i asking me self realy (i talk now from SYnchron Expressionmaps)

When "Tremelo" is not in Group 1, how i should ever reach my Tremelo when Stac is choosed in Group 1 and has Priority?

That dosnt Works for me. (ScreenShot "Stac Trem")

 

Sorry but i maybe to stupid.

Best, Ron

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Posted on Mon, Nov 15 2021 21:30
by ronaudio_13968
Joined on Tue, May 03 2005, Posts 53
Hi all,
finaly i have realised that the Sychron Expressionmaps has slightly a different arrangement in the Way how they are grouped. It seems that the Basic-Artikulations are now in the Group 2! not anymore in Group 1.
The Fact that for "Dynamics" (Tree Name) in the Expressionmap is written as "SoftSwell" leads me more in confusing.
For me it was logical to have the "Articulation"-Tree in Group 1, cause Group 1 has Priority.
I will find out how this works better for me too. Otherwise VSL didnt would do this.;)
So nice to have still all this Options in SP too. (Only the "Volume-Fades" (For Tuttis) i miss..)
But on this Point i have to say it one more Time:
THE SOUND.... IS AMAZING!!! Realy:))

Best, Ron
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