Hi Megatron, although I haven't personally updated to 7.1 (still on 7.0.1), I don't think there are any issues to fear... The Performance Tool integrates particularly well with EXS24.

Be sure to post here if you do have any issues, they're usually dealt with very swiftly by the experts at VSL. In the unlikely event that your post goes unnoticed, you should email

At least that's what I think the email address is, it's this website's biggest secret, so much so I've spent 5 minutes trying to find it for you and couldn't. (I'm sure I saw it somewhere the other day...)

Enjoy your system once you're set-up....

Irvin

P.S. You live in The Asphalt Jungle? Must be either Milton Keynes or Cumbernauld.. []

i'm very happily working away with VSL -Logic 7.1 and 10.3.9 on G5 dual 2g + 4.5g ram no worries at all

enjoy your new mac

Thanks to all.

Raw,
You've mentioned a third party tool for authorization (Logic Dongle.)
Any suggestions? Is there more than one?

Regards,

Alex.

p.s. Thanks for all the info about Logic. Even as an old fart, i'm learning much!

just to mention:
apple does recommend to _not_ use the XSkey manager for white XSkeys or blue ones with updated firmware - use the built in authorization dialog from logic 7 instead which appears if you hold the apple-key during the start of logic.
for logic 6.4 you might have to use the XSkey manager and for this version there are no white dongles - with logic 6.3 you can access the authorization dialog from the menue
christian

ps: the link to the XSkey manager can be found also in every email providing a temporary access code for users who register their first library for the EXS format. to enter the XSkey number in the respective field in our user area (eg. tool downloads) is necessary to receive a permanent authorization later

Hermitage - you are too kind! Do you mean to start a logic forum section with particular slant on EXS and VSL integration?

Raw,
no kindness neccessary, it's a fact that i've learnt more from you than hours fighting my way through the logic manual. (Give me a piano, parchment and a quill, and i'm in familiar ground, outside of that i need a crash helmet!)
I was thinking more of a Sticky in the EXS forum, labelled something like Logic tips. We're talking about VSL anyway, and sample use is well covered in Orchestration, Composition etc. Maybe exactly the type of info you gave me about pitchbend wheels, using the environment, and this one about 3rd party tools would be worth a separate area. I can definitely write music and have done for over thirty years, But when you're writing like a madman, doing every gig you can get, and playing all hours of day and night, the study required for knowing a programme like Logic gets second place. And although i'm a study demon for composition and orchestration, Logic and Cubase have both been neglected in life's learning curve. It's something i know i have to do, but give me manuscript, and i'll take that as an excuse to avoid the logic/cubase manual. I know enough to turn out finished work, but it's the finesse and better ways of doing things that i lack, and i would imagine others would be in the same boat.

Maybe it's worth emailing Herb or Cm, or one of the others, and asking them if it's worth it to set up a Logic forum.

Thanks again for the continued help Raw, you're certainly making my work much easier.

Regards,

Alex.

Hi guys - I hope you don't mind if I borrow this thread to post my own question, rather than starting a new one (it is a related topic).

First off, I don't own any VSL products yet, but I was thouroghly impressed by a demo that came with some Spectrasonics sample libraries that I recently purchased, so I have decided to purchase the Opus bundle in the near future (when my economy has recovered..)

My question can be phrased as: EXS24 or Kontakt for VSL, using Logic Pro 7? The two main issues that I'm concerned about are: 1) how do I work with the EXS24 for (very) many instruments, and 2) how does the performance tool work with Kontakt if I want to use it in Logic? (is it a separete AU, or a part of Kontakt, like the case with the EXS24?)

One reason that I'm even considering Kontakt rather than just using EXS24 is that I've been playing around with the Garritan Personal Orchestra, which comes with the free Kontakt player (not the sampler). While this player is a very simple application, it works great to set it up as a freezable multi-instrument to economize on the number crunching while retaining the easy editing of each channel on a separate track. As an example that I'm currently working on, in this way I can have 32 channels represented by only 4 instances of Kontakt, and when I freeze them the cpu demand goes down from 75% to less than 10%.

My problem is that I honestly don't know how to do the same with EXS24. What do I do when I have a large orchestra: do I have to use one instance of EXS24 per instrument? This may just be my ignorance of features of the EXS24, maybe I can do something similar, but it strikes me that Kontakt is exceptionally suited for this kind of job.

Any recommendations for me as a soon-to-be VSL owner?
(before I go out and by a new sampler that maybe I don't need!)

cheers
/ralf

Thanks for your comments, and you are right of course, whichever way I go will be fine, it's just a matter of convenience and personal preferences. And economy, I guess, since I already have the EXS with Logic while Kontakt 2 would be another $500.

You mentioned something about side licensing, I can not find any information on this here at the web site - is it spelled out somewhere, or must I contact someone at VSL to find out about this? It would be great if I could start out with the EXS24 that I already have, and move over to Kontakt in the future if I discover that that will work better for me.

From browsing around in the Kontakt section of this forum, there seems to be something in the works between VSL and NI to provide performance-like scripts for the Kontakt edition of VSL. I say "performance-like", since I don't know how this actually works - are Kontakt scripts as good as or even better than the performance tool, so as to completely substitute it in the future if this deal goes through? If this were to be the case, I think that this together with Kontakt's multi-timbrality would be strong selling points for me to get Kontakt.

On the other hand, maybe it won't substitute the performance tool, and you also mentioned Redmatica's Keymap, which, although I don't know what it is, might make a selling point for EXS instead. I guess I'm still undecided.

Oh well, I won't make the purchase for another moth or so, so I have a while to decide. Maybe there will be some developments in the meantime to wise me up

cheers
/ralf

I'm stepping in just to say that yes, we are a bit late on Keymap, but it will be well worth the wait.

And now, back to work
Andrea at Redmatica