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IMPORTANT - Steinberg - Abandon du format VST 2
Last post Sun, Mar 20 2022 by TH2019, 12 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 14:21
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

Bonjour,

Steinberg vient de rendre officielle sa décision de mettre fin à toute prise en charge du format VST 2, d'ici au plus tard 24 mois.

Les programmes comme Cubase, Nuendo et Dorico, sous Windows, ne prendront en charge à partir de ce moment-là plus que le format VST 3.

Actuellement, Vienna Synchron Player est disponible au format VST 2.4 et au format VST 3.6.14.

Actuellement toujours, Vienna Instruments ainsi que Vienna Instruments Pro ne sont disponibles qu'au format VST 2.4 !

Depuis l'annonce de Steinberg, la possibilité de pouvoir continuer à moyen terme à utiliser les instruments VSL série VI dans les prochaines versions de Cubase / Nuendo / Dorico se pose de manière inquiétante.

Quand est-ce que la disponibilité de Vienna Instruments et Vienna Instruments Pro au format VST 3, devenue désormais indispensable, aura lieu ?

Dans l'attente d'une réponse officielle de VSL. Merci.

  

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Hello,

 

Steinberg has just made official its decision to end all support for the VST 2 format, within 24 months at the latest.

 

 

Programs like Cubase, Nuendo and Dorico on Windows will only support the VST 3 format from then on.

 

Currently, Vienna Synchron Player is available in VST 2.4 format and VST 3.6.14 format.

 

Currently still, Vienna Instruments as well as Vienna Instruments Pro are only available in VST 2.4 format !

 

Since Steinberg's announcement, the possibility of being able to continue to use VSL Series VI instruments in the medium term in the next versions of Cubase / Nuendo / Dorico has been a cause for concern.

 

When will the availability of Vienna Instruments and Vienna Instruments Pro in the now indispensable VST 3 format take place ?

 

Awaiting an official response from VSL. Thank you.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 14:45
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13736

Hi, 

Thanks for posting!

Please install the latest versions of our VSL Software, which all include VST3 plug-ins.
Exception: Vienna Imperial. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 15:15
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

Merci Paul pour votre réponse. Malheureusement, celle-ci n'est pas satisfaisante.

J'ai déjà installé tes toutes dernières versions des logiciels VSL (pour Windows 10).

Je maintiens, après vérification, les affirmations suivantes :

Vienna Synchron Player est disponible au format VST 2.4 et au format VST 3.6.14.

Vienna Instruments ainsi que Vienna Instruments Pro ne sont disponibles qu'au format VST 2.4.

Je repose donc ma question :

Quand est-ce que la disponibilité effective de Vienna Instruments et Vienna Instruments Pro au format VST 3, devenue désormais indispensable, aura lieu ?

 

Traduction Google :

Thanks Paul for your response. Unfortunately, this is not satisfactory.

I have already installed your latest versions of VSL software (for Windows 10).

I maintain, after verification, the following assertions :

Vienna Synchron Player is available in VST 2.4 format and VST 3.6.14 format.

Vienna Instruments as well as Vienna Instruments Pro are only available in VST 2.4 format.

So I ask my question again :

When will the effective availability of Vienna Instruments and Vienna Instruments Pro in the VST 3 format, which has now become essential, take place ?
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 17:07
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires, MA, Posts 1245

Just use them in Vienna Ensemble

Dorico, Finale, Sibelius, Notion, Overture, Cubase, StaffPad
Win11 x64, 64GB RAM; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
Kontakt, Bunch of VSL, VIP, VEP, EWQL Orch, Choir and Pianos
August Forster 190
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 18:03
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

Je vous remercie Bill pour le conseil.

Cependant, l'utilisation de Vienna Ensemble ne me convient pas. L'ajout de cet utilitaire alourdit et rend plus compliqué le fonctionnement d'un DAW, je ne souhaite pas l'utiliser.

Je demande à VSL de mettre au format VST 3 ses logiciels Vienna Instrument et Vienna Instrument Pro.

Dans le cas contraire, je cesserai d'utiliser les instruments VST de la société VSL et je me tournerai vers d'autres concepteurs d'instruments VST, avec regret, définitivement. Je ne serai très certainement pas le seul.

Salutations.

 

Traduction Google :

Thank you Bill for the advice.

However, using Vienna Ensemble does not suit me. Adding this utility weighs down and complicates the operation of a DAW, I don't want to use it.

I ask VSL to put its Vienna Instrument and Vienna Instrument Pro software in VST 3 format.

Otherwise, I will stop using VST instruments from the VSL company and turn to other VST instrument designers, regretfully, permanently. I certainly won't be the only one.

Greetings.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 18:27
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13736

Hi, 

You are correct, my apologies.

We will catch up!

A (dirty) workaround for now is to copy the VST2 plugin, paste it in your VST 3 Plug-in folder and rename it.

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 19:14
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1376

Originally Posted by: TH2019 Go to Quoted Post

Cependant, l'utilisation de Vienna Ensemble ne me convient pas. L'ajout de cet utilitaire alourdit et rend plus compliqué le fonctionnement d'un DAW, je ne souhaite pas l'utiliser.

Au contraire, if you are on a Mac, using Vienna Ensemble with Steinberg programs will make speed and memory management a lot more efficient. No idea if it is the same on Windows.

Paolo

www.studio-magazine.com
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 19:24
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

Je vous adresse mes remerciements Paul pour cette réponse de votre part encourageante pour le présent comme pour l'avenir.

Nous comptons donc sur vous et sur la société VSL pour actualiser dès que cela vous sera possible les logiciels Vienna Instruments et Vienna Instruments Pro afin de les rendre compatibles avec le format VST 3 exigé à terme par Steinberg.

Si besoin, j'utiliserai en attendant la solution de contournement provisoire et très astucieuse, en espérant qu'elle fonctionne quand même de façon stable, que vous m'indiquez.

J'apprécie grandement la très haute qualité et la diversité des instruments Vienna et je suis heureux de savoir que je pourrai continuer à pleinement les utiliser, d'autant que je vous en ai acheté un nombre très important et qu'ils constituent la base essentielle de mes compositions.

Excellente année 2022 à vous. Cordialement. Thierry.

 

Traduction Google :

I address you my thanks Paul for this answer of your part encouraging for the present as for the future.

We are therefore counting on you and on the company VSL to update the Vienna Instruments and Vienna Instruments Pro software as soon as possible in order to make them compatible with the VST 3 format eventually required by Steinberg.

If needed, I will use the temporary and very clever workaround in the meantime, hoping that it still works in a stable way, which you indicate to me.

I greatly appreciate the very high quality and diversity of the Vienna instruments and I am happy to know that I will be able to continue to make full use of them, especially since I have purchased a very large number of them from you and they form the essential basis. of my compositions.

Happy New Year 2022 to you. Cordially. Terry.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 21 2022 19:36
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

 

Merci Paolo.

Je travaille sous Windows 10. J'ai essayé Vienna Ensemble, par curiosité. Je ne sais pas si la gestion de la vitesse et de la mémoire se trouvent par ce moyen également améliorés sur un ordinateur PC, mais je sais que cela me conduit à effectuer des actions supplémentaires que je préfère éviter.

Cordialement. Thierry.

 

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Thanks Paolo.

I work under Windows 10. I tried Vienna Ensemble, out of curiosity. I don't know if speed and memory management are thereby also improved on a PC computer, but I do know that it leads me to perform additional actions that I prefer to avoid.

Cordially. Terry.
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Posted on Sun, Jan 23 2022 13:53
by Kai
Joined on Sun, Dec 29 2002, Graz, Austria, Posts 186

I fully agree, there should be a VST3 version of VI pro soon. Always using it in VE pro is not a viable option at all. It is so much simpler to do everything in the DAW or Notation Software, and what's more there are so many useful features of these Applications one would completely loose when instantiating VI pro directly would not be possible anymore.

Already now VI pro does NOT work at all anymore in the new Dorico 4 on Apple-sliicon Macs unless one runs it under Rosetta ... which is painfully slow. This is really a pity taking into account that VST3 is around for such a long time (like many other users, I purchased all of my many VI products long after that point).
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Posted on Sun, Jan 23 2022 14:10
by Kai
Joined on Sun, Dec 29 2002, Graz, Austria, Posts 186

Here some VST history (copied from Wikipedia):

VST 3.0 came out in 2008. Changes included:Music

  • Audio Inputs for VST Instruments
  • Multiple MIDI inputs/outputs
  • Optional SKI (Steinberg Kernel Interface) integration

VST 3.5 came out in February 2011. Changes included note expression, which provides extensive articulation information in individual note events in a polyphonic arrangement. According to Steinberg, this supports performance flexibility and a more natural playing feel. [9]

In October 2011, Celemony Software and PreSonus released Audio Random Access (ARA), an extension for audio plug-in interfaces, such as VST, allowing greater integration between audio plug-ins and DAW software.[10]

In September, 2013, Steinberg discontinued maintenance of the VST 2 SDK. In December, Steinberg stopped distributing the SDK.[11] The higher versions are continued.
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Posted on Sun, Mar 20 2022 09:13
by TH2019
Joined on Sat, Feb 09 2019, Posts 11

!!! SUPER BONNE NOUVELLE !!!

VSL vient de faire évoluer son système de protection vers le système de licence iLok, comme chacun le sait.

Mais concernant le présent sujet, la bonne nouvelle n'est pas là. La bonne nouvelle, c'est que Vienna Instruments Pro, dans sa version iLok, par ailleurs nouvellement gratuite, est désormais disponible non seulement dans le format VST2.4 mais également dans le format VST3.6.0.

Par rapport à Steinberg qui a prévu à moyen terme d'abandonner le standard VST2, l'utilisation dans l'avenir des instruments VSL de la collection VI reste donc assurée dans les DAW tels que Dorico, Cubase et Nuendo.

Merci à Paul ainsi qu'à toute l'équipe de chez VSL pour cette évolution et pour cette amélioration importante.

Thierry

 

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!!! SUPER GOOD NEWS!!!

VSL has just upgraded its protection system to the iLok licensing system, as everyone knows.

But concerning the present subject, the good news is not there. The good news is that Vienna Instruments Pro, in its otherwise newly free iLok version, is now available not only in VST2.4 format but also in VST3.6.0 format.

Compared to Steinberg, who planned to abandon the VST2 standard in the medium term, the future use of VSL instruments from the VI collection therefore remains assured in DAWs such as Dorico, Cubase and Nuendo.

Thanks to Paul and the whole team at VSL for this evolution and for this important improvement.

Thierry
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