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Is VEPro unusable on a single machine?
Last post Sat, Jun 11 2022 by Paul, 7 replies.
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Posted on Tue, May 24 2022 15:54
by PatrickF
Joined on Tue, Feb 22 2022, USA, Posts 5

I use Cubase 12 and VEPro 7. Before purchasing VEPro, I had a 400 track template in Cubase that work OK...a little slow sometimes, and took about 20s to save. Then I read the marketing from VSL and believed the part that VEPro can run in single-machine configuration and that it would help. I spent weeks setting it up, and now it is totally useless. Every mouse click takes 5-10s. Opening and closing VEPro takes 5 minutes without saving, 7.5 minutes with saving.

Has anyone actually used it successfully on a single machine? If so, what's the secret?

I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with 64GB.

Posted on Tue, May 24 2022 17:39
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires, MA, Posts 1269

Thousand and thousands of people use it this way...

I'm not  MAC guy, so can't offer any suggestions.

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Posted on Wed, May 25 2022 01:35
by ravez
Joined on Sun, Apr 24 2011, Posts 43

One thing that was making everything slow like that for me was that i left on the check for "Release driver when application is in background" under audio system in studio setup in cubase.

You want that check to be off or every time VEP takes the focus, Cubase will release the driver and everything freezes for a few seconds.

I don't have a big template as i am still setting things up but runs very smooth so far, that was the only issue i had and that's how i solved it.

Posted on Thu, May 26 2022 12:51
by PatrickF
Joined on Tue, Feb 22 2022, USA, Posts 5

Thank you for input. I stumbled across a few people on YouTube who use this setup with all the tracks disabled in VEP. I tried it and it really helps. So I think I am going to keep using VEP (because it does help save times and project file sizes in Cubase), but with all tracks disabled, only enabling the ones I need, and rendering-in-place as the arrangement grows. It's not ideal–I'm not even sure it's worth the time investment into this kind of setup–but it seems like it is going to work ok.

Posted on Tue, May 31 2022 13:44
by PatrickF
Joined on Tue, Feb 22 2022, USA, Posts 5

UPDATE: I have disabled all tracks in all instances of VEP, but it is still unusable. Here is a video I prepare showing the same chord progression played through a plugin hosted locally in Cubase (plays perfectly) and then through VEP (only one enabled track...unusable). Does anyone have any suggestions? 


Posted on Sat, Jun 04 2022 14:59
by PatrickF
Joined on Tue, Feb 22 2022, USA, Posts 5

Does anyone else have a suggestion? I emailed VSL support the same video, but there is no response.

Posted on Sat, Jun 11 2022 21:20
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13811


Looks like you're on MIDI Channel 2 with the BBCSO...  What happens if you change it to 1 or send on channel 2 from your sequencer?
Which case number did you get with your support request... I'd like to check what happened.


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