Hi!

Just a quick resume for this year's biggest happenings.

1) Steinberg Activation system: 3 computers can use 1 license on all products. It goes dongle free.

2) Native Instruments allow 2 computers to use one license on all products. It is dongle free.

3) Spitfire Audio allow 2 computers to use one license on all products that use dedicated player otherwise libraries are for Kontakt player. Spitfire player is dongle free.

Anyone here can add to this list the software they use, but at the end I will put this:

N) VSL jumped from one dongle type to another. Even more - I have two server licenses, but I can use only one at a time just because if VSL would allow to activate server licenses on computer (not dongle or multiuser cloud), then "someone of course will steal product".

Interesting how Steinberg, Native Instruments and Spitfire Audio get to conclusion to "allow of stealing their products" and just go dongle free zone? Are their programs and libraries less important in the industry than VSL's?

And no - in a dongle free setup I won't like to buy new dongle. It's 55 euros. For what? For inconvenience? I would not take it for free just because it's too oldish for today.

Hi, Ben!

Thank you for your reply and jump into this problem. I hope we can discuss longer than "best wishes" sounds.

If I activate iLok Cloud on main computer, I cannot activate it on server at the same time. If I don't activate Cloud on server, I cannot use server license on it. So, I cannot use two servers at a time.

I would like to create another account for server and send my second server license to it, but I'm not allowed to do that - server licenses are not transferable.

In case you need more clarification, feel free to ask here. Don't send me to the support since they didn't help me (us) right after this move to iLok.

Best, Arthur.

Originally Posted by: ANeeman

This is the fastest way to lose customers.

Who cares? One more or less...

I have not move to Ilok yet because I am very scared !

At the moment I have lost two licences of the EW choir on an Ilok 1

The solution I have adopt is to spread my libraries over 2 dongles !

It is true that VSL are maniacs about protection. Their libs where  pirated when they start.

I am still waiting for one old lib to be used with eLicenser !!!!!

This is how I did on my setup - iLok Cloud used on main computer, but eLicenser version (VEPro and all libraries) used on server.

I could ask -

1) So why this move to iLok? If only for antipiracy, then all our bank accounts also should switch to iLok. In the time when Cubase goes dongle-free, you pushed us to use another dongle. Any dongle is already pirated - you can do nothing to avoid this. If someone build fortress, another one will do anything to destroy it (just for fun). It's a question of time.

2) What will happen when eLicenser server will go down? Will we be able to use eLicenser versions? Maybe, but not managing them if for example we reinstall system. So this again pushes to switch to iLok. This inconvenience cuts freedom that needed for mind and muse.

In general, I could agree to use iLok, but please add a possibility a) to activate server licenses on disk, not only on stick and cloud or b) to transfer at least server licenses to another account (it is disabled now).

Don't push to search for pirated versions. I didn't use "try-before-buy" offers since going serious into industry many years back. This is the loyalty and friendship. Sadly - it's one way.

Originally Posted by: Ben

neither iLok's nor eLicenser's copy protection was broken yet.

It's wealthy to think that :) Therefore we receive not only good sample libraries, but also inconvenience that is the result of arrogance :)

Okay, I will contact support team, but I'm sure I'm not only one who stuck on this inconvenience. I feel I use VEPro less than it was year before iLok.

I've had a look at your account right now: All convertible licenses has been deposited successful to your iLok account.

Best, Michael

Originally Posted by: Ben

I would not recommend to trash your eLicenser USB key, you never know when it might be useful (for example offline-converting old project save-files). Or sentimental value ;)

What? Is it a joke? How eLicenser USB key can be useful when server will be down (sooner or later)? Without a server we won't be able to manage licenses, nor add something new.

I would say that better for VSL would be to take Spitfire Audio move and make own licensing system. iLok isn't future.

Still didn't get an answer from VSL Support - what can I do with two VEPro server licenses on one cloud in a dongle-free environment? Please answer! Or I should rethink of team's capability to work with customers.

P.S. When our money is a target, company knows how to talk, but when inconveniences occurred, then it's our problem only.

Hi ANeeman, 

We have done our best to make it clear in this video. 

You will need at least one iLok key for a setup with 2 VE Pro Servers. 

Best, 
Paul